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States standing up to the fed

Started by samiam, March 17, 2010, 05:33:14 PM

samiam


JagFan07

This is great to see. I am a strong advocate of States Rights and restricting the Fed to the powers granted by the constitution.
The few, the proud the native Jacksonvillians.

buckethead

Must be a racist^.

We all know that "states rights" is code for racism.... ;)

samiam

#3
I don't have a secret decoder ring, so I don't know the code.

Rhode Island, Vermont and Wisconsin, for example â€" none of them known as conservative bastions â€" are considering bills that would authorize, or require, governors to recall or take control of National Guard troops, asserting that federal calls to active duty have exceeded federal authority.

How is the above racism

kells904

i get it, buckethead...i think...

buckethead

Sarcasm, to be sure...

It is commonly agreed upon, however, in some circles.

urbanlibertarian

Sed quis custodiet ipsos cutodes (Who watches the watchmen?)

Bostech

These are not states rebelling but Republicans against Democrats.
Legalize Marijuana,I need something to calm me down after I watch Fox News.

If Jesus was alive today,Republicans would call him gay and Democrats would put him on food stamps.

JagFan07

My thoughts, for what little they are worth, is that the government closest to the people should be the most visible and have the most affect. Am I racist for thinking so? I don't think so. My family is made up of Europeans, Native Americans, African Americans, Japanese, and Filipinos. We are mutts, just like most Americans are.
The few, the proud the native Jacksonvillians.

Doctor_K

Quote from: Bostech on March 17, 2010, 08:49:18 PM
These are not states rebelling but Republicans against Democrats.

Uhm, no:
QuoteOn Thursday, Wyoming’s governor, Dave Freudenthal, a Democrat, signed a similar bill for that state.
It's the last best way for states to assert any sort of pseudo-self-soveriegnty or stand up to the centralized federal government to send a message.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein


vicupstate

Freudenthal is a WYOMING Democrat, which is to say, in any of about 45+ other states, he would be a Republican.

It  is clear that Federal law trumps state law where a conflict exists, which is consist with the Constitution.   

This is jsut Conservative grandstanding pure and simple.  Whipping up the base.
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buckethead

So the constitution does not grant the federal government specific and limited authority to legislate while granting state the authority to legislate every other potential issue?

QuoteThe powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Maybe I'm not reading it right?

urbanlibertarian

Lee's surrender to Grant at Appomattox was the beginning of the end for state sovereignty no matter what the founders may have intended.  It will take a constitutional amendment to restore teeth to the tenth amendment.  Most politicians are alternately for or against states rights depending on whether it promotes or impedes their goals.
Sed quis custodiet ipsos cutodes (Who watches the watchmen?)

buckethead

The breaking of laws does not negate their validity and authority.

The problem lies with the writers of unconstitutional legislation, and the lack of public will to hold legislators accountable.