Jacksonville's next Superbowl !!!

Started by Coolyfett, October 02, 2008, 08:59:46 AM

reednavy

Quote from: tufsu1 on February 08, 2010, 10:11:27 AM
not even worth trying...Jax won't get another Super Bowl until they can show a serious entertainment district...and probably another 1500 hotel rooms in the downtown area.

So we just shouldn't even try? That's been the problem here is that we don't try really. We made a bid for the World Cup, mainly because we could tout our large stadium. If we don't even try, how do we know we don't have a chance?

Go back in time and read post 2006 Super Bowl views of the experience people had here. Granted we don't have as many attractions and such to offer, but the overall review was very good.
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tufsu1

Quote from: reednavy on February 08, 2010, 12:53:41 PM
Go back in time and read post 2006 Super Bowl views of the experience people had here. Granted we don't have as many attractions and such to offer, but the overall review was very good.

really...did you read the national press...or the comments from Philly writers?

Steve

I think that Jacksonville would be best not bidding until we can host it without the cruise ships.  Once we get to that point, and I honestly believe we will, we will have a convention center (nothing else would cause us to build 4,000 hotel rooms).  The entertainment district is coming.  Anyone who hasn't been Downtown in the last six months is seriously missing out.

reednavy

Quote from: tufsu1 on February 08, 2010, 01:00:22 PM
really...did you read the national press...or the comments from Philly writers?

Fan reviews, not bullcrap Philly sportswriters. More reviews were positive than negative, but the biggest ones that were negative were of course from ESPN and other big name stations and/or newspapers.

Even with the current situation Steve, I'd still bid, it never hurts to try.
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tufsu1

If you don't meet the minimumn qualifications, you don't bid...period

Coolyfett

what was funny to me was how the media kept bashing the Miami stadium. saying the San Diego & Miami need new stadiums. What Dallas & Phoenix have  really set the bar high. Jax field is only 15 yrs old. Jax needs to be agressive!!
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Coolyfett

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Let's get a bid in for 2014!
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Thats what im saying go for it every year! nothing wrong with being denied. Just go for it!
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Coolyfett

people act as if when the game is awarded they play the game the same year.every city knows 5 years to plan. Jax has one under its belt. It wont be a rookie superbowl people. 5 years is a lot of time.
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reednavy

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Quote from: tufsu1 on February 08, 2010, 01:34:01 PM
If you don't meet the minimumn qualifications, you don't bid...period
Then what happened in 2006? We bid for that one and got it, so what made them pick us? I think having a small cruise ship or two as accomodations was unique, even though some took shots at it. So freckin what, it worked, I say bid for it and I'm sticking to it. I don't get what you mean by not bidding for it. So I guess you're trying to say we never should've bid for the 2006 SB, not got it, missed out on the recognition, and the revenue?
Jacksonville: We're not vertically challenged, just horizontally gifted!

tufsu1

Quote from: reednavy on February 08, 2010, 02:36:39 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on February 08, 2010, 01:34:01 PM
If you don't meet the minimumn qualifications, you don't bid...period
Then what happened in 2006? We bid for that one and got it, so what made them pick us? I think having a small cruise ship or two as accomodations was unique, even though some took shots at it. So freckin what, it worked, I say bid for it and I'm sticking to it. I don't get what you mean by not bidding for it. So I guess you're trying to say we never should've bid for the 2006 SB, not got it, missed out on the recognition, and the revenue?

not at all what I am saying...we made a bid for 2005 that included use of cruise ships for hotels....now that folks have seen that in action, I doubt they would approve of a similar plan for a future game.

Face it, this town can not compete year-in, year-out with the likes of Tampa, San Diego, New Orleans, etc. for Super Bowls...remember that often new teams (or new stadiums) are granted a game.

BTW...the main problem Miami has (according to the Super Bowl folks) is that it is open-air...the last time they had a Super Bopwl there, it rained....also, keep in mind that the 2010 game was supposed to be in New Orleans and got moved because of Katrina.

vicupstate

The city is broke, so finding money for another bid is really out of the question.  Plus, the city needs to concentrate on getting the level of support for the Jags to the appropriate level.  That is a plate full already. 

The results of the last SB for Jax were mixed at best.  Many local businesses lost money that week. 

A future bid might be a good idea at some point, but I would wait until the Jags are more stable, the economy has recovered, Bay St is post-Courthouse and further along, and DT momentum has been regained. 

I realize that some of those things could happen in the years between getting a bid and the actual game, but I would wait until they have all happened.
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vicupstate

Perhaps the better goal would be to seek to be 'SB bid ready', rather than simply go for another game immediately.

When we can answer 'yes' to a list of questions like this, then we are ready ...

1) Adequate lodging
2) A genuine DT entertainment district instead of a movie-set one
3) Improved transit in the core
4) A DT that would impress someone that came to the 2005 SB by comparison
5) A Landing that has been re-done SINCE the 80's
6) A Riverwalk that is safe, clean, and well-used

That's a start anyway.
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reednavy

Sorry NFL, but I'd rather attend an outdoors SB game. Most teams play outside, so IMO, it isn't fair to always want to have it indoors. The onyl reason Dallas and Indianapolis have games, in 2011 and 2012 respectively, is becuase they're indoors only. If it were an outside venue, Indy would be completely out of the mix and Dallas would be marginal.

I honestly think that the NFL needs to get off the indoor craze and expand the SB to more cities that have still relatively ok conditions this time of year. I'd be all for adding Charlotte and Nashville, even if they're both outside venues.

Football is a sport made to be played outdoors. The Univ. of Minnesota opened their new OUTDOOR stadium this past season, and did very well. The direction the NFL has been going over the years, I hope for a lockout in 2011, that'll teach all levels are leson, granted a hard one. It would suck for Indy cause they wouldn't get the SB in 2012 then.
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BridgeTroll

It is high time for a Super Bowl in Lambeau then!! ;)
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