Say it ain't so Fred, say it ain't so...

[mtraininjax]

Sounds like when his illustrious career of carrying the football is over, he will become another self-righteous ESPN reporter. I wonder what Brett Favre would say, did anyone ask him his thoughts on the Jags as well?

Does anyone really care?

[aaapolito]

When I originally read the article I didn't see his comments as mean spirited.  The truth may hurt but Jacksonvillians, Jaxsons or whatever have no one to blame but themselves for the ticket situation and moving talk.

I completely agree, and last Thursday night should show that there are enough people in Jacksonville to make sure the team stays.  However, it just comes down to whether or not the people in the city will step up and support the team.

[mtraininjax]

Its not whether people will support the team, its the businesses that have to get behind the team, the same way they did in 95. Cannon should go see every business and convince them to buy the seats. People may or may not want to attend the games, but at least the businesses who receive the economic impact, are paying toward the economic impact through ticket purchases.

If the Jags rely on non-premium walk-up seats, the team will not survive.

[Seraphs]

When I originally read the article I didn't see his comments as mean spirited.  The truth may hurt but Jacksonvillians, Jaxsons or whatever have no one to blame but themselves for the ticket situation and moving talk.

I completely agree, and last Thursday night should show that there are enough people in Jacksonville to make sure the team stays.  However, it just comes down to whether or not the people in the city will step up and support the team.

I completely disagree!  It was most definitely sarcasm with mean spirited jokes.  I've always liked Fred Taylor and had respect for him.  However, I can turn on a dime just like the fickle people of just about any town.  I understand what he said and why, (he was hurt for being cut), nevertheless, we must be careful for what we say.  If the Jags stay in Jax he, Fred, will have to overcome these statements if he wants to work here in Jax.  People will not forget.  Hear that 'fragile Fred'.

[Ocklawaha]

When I originally read the article I didn't see his comments as mean spirited.  The truth may hurt but Jacksonvillians, Jaxsons or whatever have no one to blame but themselves for the ticket situation and moving talk.

I completely agree, and last Thursday night should show that there are enough people in Jacksonville to make sure the team stays.  However, it just comes down to whether or not the people in the city will step up and support the team.

I also disagree. Why?

1. The national sports media has done nothing to help Jacksonville since the Tea Men moved here from Boston.

2. Like Rand McNally refusing to update our city limits on their maps with the old limits in yellow and a letter in my hand saying they only indicate physical development not political bounds. SI is also in the game of doing nothing for Jacksonville, BTW, check out the OKC city limits! Yeah.

3. Even if every seat was filled on every game, the media would then attack us on being such a tiny and pathetic TV market that the "Team can't possibly make it..."

4. Things like PEYTON, the bungled Port Terminal, Aircraft Plant, Electrolux etc... just add ammunition to their arsenal of darts.

5. Unfinished projects, lack of commitment and yes even lack of things like REAL TRANSIT to the Stadium IE: Skyway - Streetcar.

That's enough to get started, but on that last note, roll back the clock to THAT Superbowl Game. The blimp is making a video sweep just pre game, and a 6 car Skyway train pulls into the stadium as another pulls out. Below it in a transit corridor, streetcars and buses are disgorging hordes of fans. The announcer picks up the mike and excitedly says, WOW! WHAT A CITY!

Yeah, WHAT a City indeed.

PS: IT'S JAXSON'S Y'ALL, AS IN DEVILLE, It's our historic name!


OCKLAWAHA

[aaapolito]

When I originally read the article I didn't see his comments as mean spirited.  The truth may hurt but Jacksonvillians, Jaxsons or whatever have no one to blame but themselves for the ticket situation and moving talk.

I completely agree, and last Thursday night should show that there are enough people in Jacksonville to make sure the team stays.  However, it just comes down to whether or not the people in the city will step up and support the team.

I also disagree. Why?

1. The national sports media has done nothing to help Jacksonville since the Tea Men moved here from Boston.

Why should the media "help" the town?  While I agree the national sports media has a bias towards bigger cities like NYC and LA, the media also has no obligation to "help cities like Jacksonville.  The city and the people of Jacksonville need to help themselves regarding the Jaguars.  (I do so by wearing my Jags sweatshirt and hat when I travel to NYC, NJ, and other places.  Additionally, when someone asks where I live, I'm never shy to talk up the Jags and how Jax is a great city.)  However, those same media outlets must still acknowledge that Jacksonville is an NFL city, regardless of how "little" of a sports market they believe it to be.  It's no secret that they have an interest in an NFL team in a larger city than Jacksonville (i.e. LA), but this goes directly to my previous point; Jacksonville can control its own destiny by, inter alia, selling out the stadium and supporting the team.  National sports media has a great history of stories which flame out and are forgotten (Jaguars to LA could be the next one). 


2. Like Rand McNally refusing to update our city limits on their maps with the old limits in yellow and a letter in my hand saying they only indicate physical development not political bounds. SI is also in the game of doing nothing for Jacksonville, BTW, check out the OKC city limits! Yeah.

3. Even if every seat was filled on every game, the media would then attack us on being such a tiny and pathetic TV market that the "Team can't possibly make it..."

Mere speculation.  Pittsburgh is actually a "small market," but do to their history, tradition, strong fan base, and winning they have bucked the "small market" moniker (see also San Diego and Kansas City).


4. Things like PEYTON, the bungled Port Terminal, Aircraft Plant, Electrolux etc... just add ammunition to their arsenal of darts.

Again, while I yield to your knowledge regarding failed Jacksonville projects, it is mere speculation as to whether national sports media sources would use these as reasons for the Jags to move to LA.


5. Unfinished projects, lack of commitment and yes even lack of things like REAL TRANSIT to the Stadium IE: Skyway - Streetcar.

I am from NJ and worked in NYC and could not agree with you more regarding transit access and other points of interest in Jacksonville. 


That's enough to get started, but on that last note, roll back the clock to THAT Superbowl Game. The blimp is making a video sweep just pre game, and a 6 car Skyway train pulls into the stadium as another pulls out. Below it in a transit corridor, streetcars and buses are disgorging hordes of fans. The announcer picks up the mike and excitedly says, WOW! WHAT A CITY!

I completely agree.


Yeah, WHAT a City indeed.

PS: IT'S JAXSON'S Y'ALL, AS IN DEVILLE, It's our historic name!


OCKLAWAHA