Caution: LA is coming to steal your NFL team in 2011

Dapperdan · December 05, 2009, 08:29:53 AM

So, a bankrupt state is going to build this monstrosity and cough up a billion or so to purchase an existing team? Nice priorities California.

tufsu1 · December 05, 2009, 09:18:11 AM

the bankrupt state isn't doing it...a billionaire owner is!

aaapolito · December 05, 2009, 09:45:52 AM

Quote from: tufsu1 on December 05, 2009, 09:18:11 AM
the bankrupt state isn't doing it...a billionaire owner is!

Surely the billionaire owner wouldn't be doing it without tax subsidies, correct? And tax subsidies are foregone tax revenues for the state.

buckethead · December 05, 2009, 09:46:43 AM

Quote from: tufsu1 on December 05, 2009, 09:18:11 AM
the bankrupt state isn't doing it...a billionaire owner is!

Is he funding the stadium as well?

77danj7 · December 05, 2009, 10:05:41 AM

What is so great about those renderings is the amount of retail there...That is one thing that I wish could have been incorporated here

BridgeTroll · December 05, 2009, 10:09:56 AM

QuoteWhat is so great about those renderings is the amount of retail there...That is one thing that I wish could have been incorporated here

Great point Dan! This goes back to those "secondary" income sources that are so important to teams...

77danj7 · December 05, 2009, 10:14:46 AM

I'm sitting here thinking...imagine people who would go to a stadium like that for the retail and then get "pulled" into the gameday spirit...and maybe a few of them actually buy game day tickets if they are available because of that retail presence.

buckethead · December 05, 2009, 10:25:57 AM

The design also reflects the difference in a city with a population of 1 million vs 13 million.

IIRC, Los Angeles has already failed to support two franchises previously.

BridgeTroll · December 05, 2009, 11:02:47 AM

QuoteIIRC, Los Angeles has already failed to support two franchises previously.

They were playing at substandard facilties... That is why they left.

77danj7 · December 05, 2009, 11:20:27 AM

^ Considering the Raiders left the L.A. Coliseum that stadium had to be even worse than substandard!!!

BridgeTroll · December 05, 2009, 11:48:52 AM

The raiders left Oakland after the Rams left because of the stadium... Al threatening the city of Oakland he would move unless they renovated the stadium. Oakland called his bluff. LA promised a new stadium but never came through with one. Oakland convinced Davis to move back with the promise to renovate the old stadium. They did but it is still a baseball stadium... it still lacks ameneties and luxury boxes and Al will always look for a better place to move his team.

"support" of the team by fans was certainly never an issue in Oakland... It could be argued that the Rams moved partly because of that but the real issue has always been the stadium.

David · December 05, 2009, 12:34:14 PM

More unsettling video from a LA news station:

http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/sports/nfl-football-future-in-los-angeles-20091201

They're pretty focused on our Jags in this news segment. They're also talking of building the stadium to house two NFL teams, not just one.

reednavy · December 05, 2009, 12:50:20 PM

Please, they're lucky to get one, but certainly not two. The NFL would not allow that much risk with their track record.

It is amazing they're so focused on one team because of ticket sales, pfft. When other teams are in dire straights, you'd really think they'd look jsut down the road to San Diego.

Jax is just an easy target, and always has been. I watched the video and saw nothing unsettling. Plus, her facts are messed up, they haven't lost money every, yet. I find it just funny that they are certain this will happen when they have to find a team to purchase first. It sounds simple with money being thrown around, but it isn't that easy.

They have 3 teams within the state right now to pick, so search in your own backyard before talking about moving a team across the country.

tufsu1 · December 05, 2009, 01:32:24 PM

Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 05, 2009, 10:09:56 AM
QuoteWhat is so great about those renderings is the amount of retail there...That is one thing that I wish could have been incorporated here

Great point Dan! This goes back to those "secondary" income sources that are so important to teams...

sure, but they have admitted the stadium will be built firsat followed by the other stuff....the same waqs promised in Philly and has not happened yet.

btw...yes, the ownership group will be building the stadium too.

David · December 05, 2009, 01:58:34 PM

Quote from: reednavy on December 05, 2009, 12:50:20 PM
Jax is just an easy target, and always has been. I watched the video and saw nothing unsettling. Plus, her facts are messed up, they haven't lost money every, yet. I find it just funny that they are certain this will happen when they have to find a team to purchase first. It sounds simple with money being thrown around, but it isn't that easy.

They have 3 teams within the state right now to pick, so search in your own backyard before talking about moving a team across the country.

heh, everyone is so picky about word choice on this site. We're all saying the same crap, just 50 different ways. I find it pretty "unsettling" though. Even if it's just propaganda. It's just the thought of those greedy bastards salivating over our team. It triggers off the 8 year old in me...it's like "NO LA! NO! CAN'T HAVE OUR JAGS! NO! MINE! We had them first, no fair!

I agree with going after the teams in their own backyard first. They should stop focusing on us so much and look at the other teams that are up for grabs.