Why are our streets so crowded?

[Lunican]

It's not that there are too many people, it's simply because cars take up too much space.

[thelakelander]

Nice visual comparison.  Tampa's Marion Street busway really does look like the top image on the right.  However, the buses are rarely that full.

[JeffreyS]

I will be sharing this visual it's great.

[Lunican]

Now look at these:

Fuller Warren Bridge


I-95


JTB

[gatorback]

I see there's plenty of parking!

[thelakelander]

Do worry, we'll have a bus system in 20 years that will handle the traffic problems you see today.  Just trust JTA.

[gatorback]

Please tell me they'll be running on diesel.

[thelakelander]

Yes, they will but the buses will look like trains.  In fact, they'll look and feel like trains more than real trains do.  Besides, according to Denise Butterworth at the First Coast MPO, rail isn't as clean as we think it is.  Although there are electric forms of rail and bus technology, the power has to be created at dirty polluting power plants that use coal to make electricity.

[gatorback]

lake, you're JTA thinking is perfect.  You should apply at an office near you.  Unless you're being  condescending then ha!  That's funny.

There are otherways to power consider this article:

University of Texas at Austin, Gas Technology Institute
Put First Hydrogen Fuel Cell Bus on the Road in Texas

November 5, 2007

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AUSTIN, Texas â€" The University of Texas at Austin and Gas Technology Institute (GTI) have introduced a joint technology program that features the first hydrogen fuel cell bus to be licensed and operated in Texas.
Hydrogen fuel cell bus
The 22-foot bus runs on batteries and a hydrogen fuel cell and emits just water vapor out of its tail pipe. The Center for Electromechanics at The University of Texas at Austin and the Gas Technology Institute will test this bus and other vehicles and technologies that reduce emissions and use alternate forms of energy.

In this program, The University of Texas at Austin, Center for Electromechanics and GTI will operate and evaluate a 22-foot shuttle bus powered by a hybrid electric drivetrain that combines energy provided by both advanced battery electronics and a 20 kilowatt hydrogen-powered fuel cell. The fuel cell hybrid system is expected to give the bus a range of up to 200 miles, three to four times farther than with batteries alone.

Ebus Inc. designed the bus, built specifically for the university and GTI. The bus has full highway capability and has features, such as regenerative braking, that make it exceptionally fuel-efficient.

The partners have also begun installation of the first permanent hydrogen fueling station in Texas at the J.J. Pickle Research Center in Austin.

This station will generate hydrogen from natural gas and will be available to dispense high purity hydrogen fuel, allowing for additional hydrogen-fueled vehicles to be located in the Austin area. It is a fully integrated hydrogen fueling station that allows for the generation, compression, storage and dispensing of hydrogen on-site. GreenField Compression, the Texas-based, North American Division of Atlas-Copco, is commercializing the technology.

The deployment of the bus and fueling station is the foundation of a new program for very low-emissions vehicles in Texas. It will include training and public outreach based on these new technologies to ensure success for future Texas deployment.

The hydrogen station and fuel cell bus deployment builds upon efforts funded by the U.S. Department of Energy, the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality, the U.S. Department of Transportation Federal Transit Administration, GTI, the Texas State Energy Conservation Office, the Center for Transportation and the Environment and The University of Texas at Austin.

Over the course of this multi-year program, the university and GTI expect to introduce and evaluate additional vehicle and fueling technologies that will be demonstrated in Austin and surrounding areas.

"In this program, we will use the university's specialized computer modeling to assist local transit authorities in making good decisions on emerging vehicle technologies," said Robert Hebner, director of the university's Center for Electromechanics. "This program will demonstrate that vehicles using less fuel with cleaner emissions are here today â€" not in the distant future."

"The lack of a hydrogen infrastructure has been identified as the single largest impediment to the commercial roll-out of hydrogen vehicles," said Tony Lindsay, manager of GTI's Advanced Energy Systems Group." This advanced vehicle and fueling technology program demonstrates that hydrogen fueling systems can be reliable and are commercially ready."

"Hydrogen is a safe fuel, but it's expensive to transport and store," said Brian Weeks, GTI's local project manager." On-site generation cuts the cost and brings hydrogen into the price range of conventional fuels."

The University of Texas at Austin and GTI are working to create advanced transportation and fueling technologies that can be used by their commercial partners to develop and introduce products that reduce harmful tailpipe emissions and that help reduce the nation's dependency on foreign sources of energy for transportation fuels. They hope to announce additional project partners in coming weeks.

About The University of Texas at Austin Center for Electromechanics:
Research at the center makes an impact in areas important to the security and economy of our nation. The center conducts research, educates students, offers public outreach programs and transfers research results to industry for commercialization in the areas of transportation and electric power.

About Gas Technology Institute:
GTI is the leading research, development and training organization serving the natural gas industry and energy markets. For more than 65 years, GTI has been meeting the nation's energy and environmental challenges by developing technology-based solutions for consumers, industry and government.