Crash Trash and Weekend Bash! The MJ Club Crawl.

[jbroadglide]

Are there any nightspots for us over 50's??? These all sound like clubs for 20's and 30's..and frankly I don't want to be labeled a dirty old man by going into a 20's club and oogling all th 20 year old females..

[stephElf]

Are there any nightspots for us over 50's??? These all sound like clubs for 20's and 30's..and frankly I don't want to be labeled a dirty old man by going into a 20's club and oogling all th 20 year old females..

Not sure what side of town you are on... but New Orleans Cafe on a Thursday seems targeted to the 40s / 50s crowd. They have live music on the deck ... covering classic rock type music.  It's on San Jose right before the Julington Creek bridge.

And they may have more nights like that besides Thursday... it isn't a swanky environment. Pretty chill, casual.  Kinda like Florida Keys meets Biker Bar ... lol.

event calendar & menu
http://www.myspace.com/theneworleanscafe

[AntigoneStarr]

I'm hoping that there will be another review on the Pearl and the Sinclair when it's not karaoke or a show? And perhaps a little less bias in the review itself, it seems more like a story of how someone's night has gone as opposed to a review... I realise it must be quite difficult to be subjective in a case like this. Perhaps two people per venue, one male and one female, who are not associating with eachother, who are not acting as "staff", would yield more unbiased results?

Also, no category for cleanliness? Just blurry images and some shots of the restrooms in which to judge that on? I mean, some of the venues in the riverside/downtown area can be straight up gross or really clean...

[AntigoneStarr]

You've probably seen me out and about at that rate. There aren't many venues that I don't like, except for some of the larger multi-plex types...

[jbroadglide]

Are there any nightspots for us over 50's??? These all sound like clubs for 20's and 30's..and frankly I don't want to be labeled a dirty old man by going into a 20's club and oogling all th 20 year old females..

Not sure what side of town you are on... but New Orleans Cafe on a Thursday seems targeted to the 40s / 50s crowd. They have live music on the deck ... covering classic rock type music.  It's on San Jose right before the Julington Creek bridge.

And they may have more nights like that besides Thursday... it isn't a swanky environment. Pretty chill, casual.  Kinda like Florida Keys meets Biker Bar ... lol.

Too far south elf.. I'm in Riverside..

event calendar & menu
http://www.myspace.com/theneworleanscafe

[DavidWilliams]

...and J Broad you CAN go anywhere you like. You don't have to be relegated to listening classic rock cover bands on a deck if that isn't what you are into. I am 43 and feel pretty comfortable at the places that have been mentioned here. Haven't yet been to all of them. Just keep your ogling to a minimum. My wife keeps my ogling to a minimum with occasional doses of of her elbow to my ribs when we are out.  Works well. I am fairly well trained.   

[CrysG]

My only comments after being sent this from a friend was.

Not everyone goes to a club to drink. I personally go to see friends and dance to music, so a rating system based on drinks, attractiveness of bartenders or shirtless boys singing doesn't really tell me anything about the club in question.

[CrysG]

I, personally think the type of music should be factored. Ignoring that is like rating art galleries without saying what type of art they house.

[CrysG]

Steven,

I read the article. I've read the explanation. But in the explanation you state that the reviews are based off what people would notice first. The reviews then went to go on and list things I never look at. Not to be mean but just because the reviewer in question thinks that shirtless guys deserve a bonus point doesn't mean that the music that is played at a club is an afterthought to all.

[CrysG]

Correction:

Cute doorman as a bonus

[AntigoneStarr]

Yes, something about the type of music played, who the DJ is, who the bands playing are, should definitely be included in the written portion. I can't stand when I see flyers for a venue and yes, the DJ is listed, but you have no idea who that person is or what kind of music he/she spins. Something about danceability is also very subjective when considering music. I mean, I'm a total white girl who can not breakdance so listening to breaks out at the beach is more for my listening enjoyment, not my ability to dance to it. Don't think this could be factored in numerically unless it's some bang out performance going towards bonus points.

If the bar serves anything other than alcohol (like specialty virgin drinks, snacks, if there's hotdogs/food vendor outside like Sweet Pete, hehe), that should be noted somewhere. Then, the quality of it should be factored in the overall score.

What about a review on Kickbacks? It's not a club venue by any means - it's a gastropub, with a lot of awesome beer.

Photos should be more clear, less blurry. Attire should be labeled appropriately and accurately without a personal opinion attached (i.e. "suits and dresses" replaced with "business attire")

Also, what night the club was reviewed should be noted in the written section just do to crowd variety (this was mentioned after the first round of reviews I believe).

In my opinion, the overall article should reflect a subjective comprehensive review. A reader should be able to tell who is giving the review (it's fairly obvious that a female would notice the shirtless guys or whatever, and may or may not add this into scoring in an inappropriate manner).


And now I think I sound like a total bitch of a critic... hrm. Just suggestions. I like the idea that someone is finally at least making a review.

[AntigoneStarr]

Oh! Forgot, perhaps something about drink prices included? Like, order a specialty drink and one uhm, baseline drink at each venue to determine this? Because beer ranges from a penny in some places some nights to to $7 for some beers in other places other nights.

Grab a baseline drink (1 beer, 1 wine, 1 cocktail) and a specialty drink. Include something about cover charges. Some places are more expensive than others, some are free. That really needs to be noted somewhere.

[AntigoneStarr]

I've read both articles beginning to end. Seems there's just more actual information in the first one than the second, and that the second was more personal experience based on the reviewer's tastes. I mean, some people obviously love the places at the Landing to no end... but it seems the venue sounds horrible and downright scary based on one person's experience there?

[CrysG]

Steven,

For the purposes of a review you need to be objective. Most club review sites base their reviews on a mixture of the following:

Music - The quality of the music.
Location - The location and neighborhood of the club.
Ambiance - The decor and atmosphere.
Drinks - Quality of the drinks.
Value - Value for the dollar.
Service- Overall opinion of the service
Hotness Factor- self explanatory 
Fun Factor- Again self explanatory

Then there are basic information given about the clubs in question:
Pricing-
Age-( 18-up or 21-up)
Cover-   
Parking-
Air Conditioning-(Yes/No)   
Dress Code- (Yes/ No, what kind)
Alcohol-(Full Bar, Cocktails, etc)
Music Type- (Club, Hip Hop, Rap, Top 40, Dance, Reggae, R&B, etc)
Website-

Lastly, maybe we can have more than one reviewer go on different night, then get together, give us who rated what how and then average. That way all demographics are covered.

[AntigoneStarr]

What CrysG said.

Like, exactly what he said, is what I was making an attempt at saying.