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Suddath Building

Started by 02roadking, January 01, 2008, 07:53:08 PM

02roadking

From the Jaxdailyrecord.com :


The Hutchinson-Suddath Building on East Bay Street is now officially listed in the National Register of Historic Places as of Oct. 3. Mayor John Peyton was notified of the designation last month by the Keeper of the National Register in Washington, D.C. The Southern Ferro Concrete Company built the building in 1910. In 1931 it was purchased by the Suddath Moving and Storage Co.
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gatorback

'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

second_pancake

Doesn't a federal designation like this prevent a city from demolishing the building?  I don't know much about the federal register in regard to commercial properties or if it changes if the property is city owned.  I'd like more information if anyone has it.
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Jason

It does prevent it from being demolished, well short of an act of Congress.  :)

vicupstate

Quote from: gatorback on January 01, 2008, 08:06:22 PM
Suddath is that old!?

A property only needs to be 50 years old to qualify. In some cases, probably even taht can be waived.
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vicupstate

Quote from: Jason on January 03, 2008, 02:19:57 PM
It does prevent it from being demolished, well short of an act of Congress.  :)

As I understand it, it provides NO protection from demolition per se.  It provides recognition, tax credits for rehab (the best part) and protection from a FEDERAL agency or arm from detracting from the historic nature.

I'm not an expert on the subject, but that is my general understanding.   
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second_pancake

Quote from: vicupstate on January 03, 2008, 02:40:19 PM
Quote from: gatorback on January 01, 2008, 08:06:22 PM
Suddath is that old!?

A property only needs to be 50 years old to qualify. In some cases, probably even taht can be waived.

Yup.  I did know that much and that if the age doesn't meet qualification, it only needs to be of "historical significance."  For instance, if there were a building built today in the style of the twin towers as a reminder of 9/11, that may apply for federal historical recognition.
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gatorback

Does anybody have a picture of that old thing?
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

thelakelander

Its the yellow brick building on the right

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gatorback

cool.  thanks lake.  what a great home (or several homes) that would make.  Can you see yourself living at a place like that?
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

thelakelander

I could, but not with kids.  I'm a rowhouse type of guy.  By the way, the building next door is being renovated into lofts right now.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

gatorback

Did the city offer any tax dollars to the project?
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

thelakelander

Its been a while, but I think some sort of incentive may have been given.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Coolyfett

Quote from: gatorback on January 03, 2008, 08:31:46 PM
cool.  thanks lake.  what a great home (or several homes) that would make.  Can you see yourself living at a place like that?

NOPE!!! but I can see myself having a few drinks and cutting up on the dance floor with a hot babe at Club Suddath!! Makes sense to make that place a club/disco.
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02roadking


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NOPE!!! but I can see myself having a few drinks and cutting up on the dance floor with a hot babe at Club Suddath!! Makes sense to make that place a club/disco.

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It is on the ground floor. A very nice place.  http://www.marksjax.com/
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