BUY JAGS TICKETS!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tripoli1711]

I believe the Jaguars absolutely give Jacksonville a national identity.  8 or 10 years ago when I would be out of state and someone would ask where I was from, I would say Jacksonville........Florida.  The need for the Florida at the end was almost always palpable from the expression on the other person's face.

I am living in Virginia at the moment.  Have been here two years.  Not once have I had to add Florida.  When people ask where I am from I say "Jacksonville" and "Ah..." is the instant look or verbal reaction of the other party.  I can attribute this to nothing other than Football.  Whether it be the Jaguars, Virginia Tech playing in ACC Championship games in Jacksonville, or both.. everyone knows Jacksonville without need for the Fla.  This is my experience outside of Virginia as well.  It may have nothing to do with football.. but I find it hard to believe so many people have raised their awareness because of Landstar Trucks on the interstate, or they finally read their Swisher Sweets box before throwing it away.

[Shwaz]

You missed the point... it doesn't matter really where FLA / GA moves to but that it just won't be here.

Also whether or not this guys has a hardon for Jax doesn't matter as he was quoting Wayne Weaver. Here's the same scoop on FCN.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=145883&catid=3

There's certainly the possibility that we would play some out-of-market games. If it happened, Orlando would be the best option and most reasonable location," Weaver told the Sentinel.

Weaver told the Sentinel the NFL will likely add two games to the regular season sometime in the next three years. He says when that happens, he would consider Orlando as a second home.

[mtraininjax]

I could not give 2 shakes if people know of Jacksonville outside of Florida. We have people who live in Jax and still do not know the entire county is the City...really! Our literacy rate is pathetic, and our education system needs improvement so that businesses will choose to come her over some other city.

Sure we have CSX, Blue Cross, but we had them BEFORE the Jags. Name some MEANINGFUL companies that moved to Jax, because of the JAGS being here. I like the Jags here in Jax, but I don't have to define my love of the City because of the Jags. We had the beaches and golf LONG before we had the Jags, and I think those items define the city much more than the NFL.

[mtraininjax]

Weaver is saber-rattling, plain and simple. Where is he going to go right now? There is NO NFL SIZE CITY WITH A STADIUM READY FOR THE JAGUARS. Weaver has his 5 million now, and next year it will be 10, because he has the weak mayor and city council in his pocket. How do you run for your next office knowing you potentially wrecked Wayne Weaver's business enterprise? Tough to get donations.

Wayne Weaver is not in control of the FL/GA game, the presidents of the universities are the ones in charge of it. The game has been played here in JAX, since BEFORE the JAGS, so you are really the one missing the point that no matter what happens to JAGS, the FL/GA game will stay here so long as the City's deal with the Universities is lucrative and money is included in the deal.

People have short memories, but I seem to remember Weaver complaining about the revenue from the Skyboxes, that the CITY built, of which Weaver seems to believe he is entitled to a cut from because they were built for the Jaguars. He also wanted revenue from other sources, when NON-Jaguar events filled the stadium.

Weaver is out for no one but himself, he is a shrewd businessman, and I don't fault him for that, but don't think for one moment that the City cannot survive without the Jags. The moment everyone bends over for the Jags, we have lost our own identity as a city.

[Shwaz]

There are a lot more than 32 other cities with beaches and golf... in Florida.

We have 2 schools in the top 5 nationally every year. If you think we're alone in education problems you're way off.

[ac]

Besides, the Jaguars do not utilize funds that would otherwise go to the DCSB.  I don't know where that notion comes from.

[Shwaz]

Weaver is saber-rattling, plain and simple. Where is he going to go right now? There is NO NFL SIZE CITY WITH A STADIUM READY FOR THE JAGUARS. Weaver has his 5 million now, and next year it will be 10, because he has the weak mayor and city council in his pocket. How do you run for your next office knowing you potentially wrecked Wayne Weaver's business enterprise? Tough to get donations.

Wayne Weaver is not in control of the FL/GA game, the presidents of the universities are the ones in charge of it. The game has been played here in JAX, since BEFORE the JAGS, so you are really the one missing the point that no matter what happens to JAGS, the FL/GA game will stay here so long as the City's deal with the Universities is lucrative and money is included in the deal.

People have short memories, but I seem to remember Weaver complaining about the revenue from the Skyboxes, that the CITY built, of which Weaver seems to believe he is entitled to a cut from because they were built for the Jaguars. He also wanted revenue from other sources, when NON-Jaguar events filled the stadium.

Weaver is out for no one but himself, he is a shrewd businessman, and I don't fault him for that, but don't think for one moment that the City cannot survive without the Jags. The moment everyone bends over for the Jags, we have lost our own identity as a city.

The article isn't saying that they are planning on moving today or tomorrow. The idea is for the 18 game schedule which could be within the next few years. Were the Buffalo Bills "saber-rattling" when they said and did move games to Toronto through the next 5 years?

If you think the Presidents of the Universities would still be playing the FLA / GA game in the old gator bowl like before the Jags were here, you're wrong. If you think the city is going to keep up JMS with out a permanent tenant, you're wrong. If you think the President's of the Universities are going to keep playing the game here after JMS goes to shit, you're wrong.

If you call it shrewd business to get your company back in the black then so be it. The Jags donated  $52,000,000 total charities in NE FL last year... nothing shrewd about that.

[Captain Zissou]

Wayne Weaver is not in control of the FL/GA game, the presidents of the universities are the ones in charge of it. The game has been played here in JAX, since BEFORE the JAGS, so you are really the one missing the point that no matter what happens to JAGS, the FL/GA game will stay here so long as the City's deal with the Universities is lucrative and money is included in the deal.

Did you mean lucrative for Jax? If so, wrong. We are at the mercy of the universities on this one. 

I am uncomfortable with the newest allocation of funds to the Jags, but on the whole I disagree with you completely.  If people outside of Florida didn't know of Jax, our city would rot.  Familiarity with the city through the NFL and association with the Jags is crucial for Jax going forward.  Population-wise we're sandwiched between Nashville, Milwaukee, Memphis and Louisville, all of which I would say are more well known than us.  When corporate presence and notoriety is considered, I'd say we are even less recognizable.  For tourism, attracting new business, and civic pride, I say the Jags are crucial. 

[copperfiend]

Wayne Weaver is not in control of the FL/GA game, the presidents of the universities are the ones in charge of it. The game has been played here in JAX, since BEFORE the JAGS, so you are really the one missing the point that no matter what happens to JAGS, the FL/GA game will stay here so long as the City's deal with the Universities is lucrative and money is included in the deal.

If the Jaguars hadn't come here in 95, the Fla/Ga would have been gone long ago. The Jaguars saved the Fla/Ga game.

[Shwaz]

Wayne Weaver is not in control of the FL/GA game, the presidents of the universities are the ones in charge of it. The game has been played here in JAX, since BEFORE the JAGS, so you are really the one missing the point that no matter what happens to JAGS, the FL/GA game will stay here so long as the City's deal with the Universities is lucrative and money is included in the deal.

If the Jaguars hadn't come here in 95, the Fla/Ga would have been gone long ago. The Jaguars saved the Fla/Ga game.

agreed... and if they move so does FLA / GA.

[mtraininjax]

If the Jaguars hadn't come here in 95, the Fla/Ga would have been gone long ago. The Jaguars saved the Fla/Ga game.

That is rediculous. The money the city gives to both sides is what saved the deal. Money talks and the City just proved it by giving the Jags the 5 million. We just proved it in the threads above.

If the Jags saved the FL/GA game, where is it written so? Did the UGA president resign the deal because of the JAGS? Its all about the money.

From the Orlando Sentinal (not bianchi):

Each team makes $3.8 million every two years under the current format in Jacksonville, McGarrity said, yet a typical home-and-home pays about $2 million to the home team. That means every other year, either Florida or Georgia would have to miss out on the money.

Nothing written about the Jags here: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/gators/orl-fbc-football-gators-georgia-jax-09232009,0,1616359.story

Saying the Jags saved the game is like saying Springfield is the safest neighborhood in the City!

[ac]

And exactly where would they play, had the stadium not been rebuilt?  The old Gator Bowl wouldn't have lasted to today.  In 1993, it already had one foot in the grave.

[mtraininjax]

Old Gator Bowl was fine. Most college stadiums only recently were fitted with seatbacks. Otherwise most are aluminum. We already had the Upper West Stands in concrete, so enhancements could have continued, as they did when the Jags moved in after the 95 renovations with the enclosure of the South End Zone and the Super Bowl enhancements.

Its like your house, you would never let it sit so long without improvements. Same with the stadium.

[ac]

Then why is it such a big deal to pay for maintenance and improvement with the Jaguars in house?

[ac]

FDOT mowed over "GO JAGS!" visible from 9A North for years.  A couple weeks back, a lone fan took two days to go out, trim it up, and make it look better. All that work for nothing.  Bastards.