http://www.theacc.com/news/statements-from-the-atlantic-coast-conference-09-14-2016
Due to the HB-2 law that discriminates against LGBT people.
Wonder if Jacksonville is working to get the ACC football championship game this December? Hope so!
Can they have a game Sat night and then the Jags on Sunday at 1? Or is that too quick of a turnaround?
ACC game headed to Orlando:
http://jacksonville.com/sports/2016-09-30/acc-moves-football-championship-game-orlando
Yup. The money quote is here, from Rick Catlett's counterpart in Orlando:
"[Citrus Bowl Chairman Steve] Hogan said community leaders received a questionnaire from the ACC inquiring about the inclusiveness of the area, working to confirm legislation and ordinances were in place that would prevent a situation similar to the North Carolina controversy."
So, naturally, I'd like to know whether or not Jacksonville city leaders received the same questionnaire.
More at: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/college-gridiron-365/os-orlando-acc-football-championship-game-20160918-story.html
Empty seats in Tampa, empty seats in Jacksonville, the ACC is trying Florida for a 3rd time? We've never seen a football game become so politicized, and in the end, it will all be about the money.
they've had empty seats in Charlotte too. Unless the team come from closeby, its tough.
Quote from: Jimmy on September 30, 2016, 12:19:25 PM
Yup. The money quote is here, from Rick Catlett's counterpart in Orlando:
"[Citrus Bowl Chairman Steve] Hogan said community leaders received a questionnaire from the ACC inquiring about the inclusiveness of the area, working to confirm legislation and ordinances were in place that would prevent a situation similar to the North Carolina controversy."
So, naturally, I'd like to know whether or not Jacksonville city leaders received the same questionnaire.
More at: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/college-gridiron-365/os-orlando-acc-football-championship-game-20160918-story.html
Rick Catlett from the Gator Bowl Association said on the radio (1010XL) that they were not interested in hosting it. They may still have a bad taste in their mouth from the years they hosted it when the ACC made the GBA take the Championship game losing team for the Gator Bowl game where ticket sales suffered.
Quote from: fsquid on September 30, 2016, 02:58:17 PM
they've had empty seats in Charlotte too. Unless the team come from closeby, its tough.
if the Atlantic champion is FSU, Clemson, or Louisville, they will be fine. The empty seats in Jax. were years where the championship included BC or Wake Forest
Quote from: carpnter on September 30, 2016, 06:50:21 PM
Rick Catlett from the Gator Bowl Association said on the radio (1010XL) that they were not interested in hosting it. They may still have a bad taste in their mouth from the years they hosted it when the ACC made the GBA take the Championship game losing team for the Gator Bowl game where ticket sales suffered.
Rick Catlett is a complete waste of space. It is appaling to me that he is still running things at the organization formerly known as the GBA
University of Miami has not played in the ACC Championship game EVER, but if they make it this year to the game, at least one ticket will be sold.
I'm thinking about you, LAKE.
Lol, you got jokes! The way it's looking UM will be in that game.
On the other hand, we know for sure what team won't.....
(https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/lol.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1)
Better batten down that teepee and invest in a bigger canoe, a hurricane is headed your way....
The ACC game has always been tough, you can't count on the teams that draw well (FSU, Clemson, etc) getting in. However Charlotte is more centrally located to more of the schools - UNC or NC State fans (or Miami fans, for that matter) aren't going to turn out in big numbers to Orlando if they're in. This is more of a blow for Charlotte and NC than it is a boon for Orlando.
The year it was Georgia Tech and FSU, there were not many people in Charlotte
Quote from: fsquid on October 02, 2016, 03:12:07 PM
The year it was Georgia Tech and FSU, there were not many people in Charlotte
Which year? The 2012 game featured a 6-6 GT team that got in because two other teams were on probation and an FSU team that had its national title chances dashed by UF the week before. The 2014 game was a sellout and the most watched conference championship game that year.
Hmmm.....what were those better teams ;) on probation that year?
Quote from: thelakelander on October 03, 2016, 07:27:07 AM
Hmmm.....what were those better teams ;) on probation that year?
Some cheaters who don't draw well even when they're eligible ;)
Quote from: thelakelander on October 03, 2016, 07:27:07 AM
Hmmm.....what were those better teams ;) on probation that year?
well one of the teams had already lost to FSU during the regular season
Let me know how they fare against FSU this week. Something tells me that after Saturday's gale force winds beat down, that LSU gig will start looking better than ever to Jimbo.
NCAA Basketball moves to Greenville, SC from Greensboro NC as part of HB2 boycott.
March Madness is returning to Greenville.
The NCAA announced Friday morning that the first and second rounds of its Division I men's basketball tournament will be relocated to the Bon Secours Wellness Arena.
Furman University and the Southern Conference will serve as the official hosts of the event, which is scheduled for March 17 and 19.
The NCAA pulled the regional rounds of its premier championship event from Greensboro, North Carolina last month in protest of House Bill 2, the state law that restricts the use of public restrooms and changing rooms based on biological sex.
Bids were opened for relocation sites, and an organizing committee, composed of Furman, the SoCon, The Well and the Greenville visitors bureau, VisitGreenvilleSC, swiftly submitted a bid to end South Carolina's 15-year hosting hiatus.
Greenville was the last Palmetto State city to host the NCAA Tournament. That was in 2002.
After that season, the NCAA boycotted South Carolina, in response to the Confederate Flag flying at the statehouse. The flag was lowered last year, and the ban was lifted.
Greenville was selected over Louisville, Kentucky, Providence, Rhode Island, Jacksonville, Florida and Dayton, Ohio. Ticket presales for the event are scheduled to launch on Nov. 1 via NCAA.com.
http://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/sports/2016/10/07/ncaa-march-madness-coming-greenville/91724570/
2016 Division I Women's Soccer Championship, College Cup, Dec. 2 and 4: San Jose, California (Avaya Stadium; West Coast Conference, host).
2016 Division III Men's and Women's Soccer Championships, Dec. 2 and 3: Salem, Virginia (Kerr Stadium; Old Dominion Athletic Conference, host).
2017 Division I Men's Basketball Championship, first/second-rounds, March 17 and 19: Greenville, South Carolina (Bon Secours Wellness Arena; Southern Conference and Furman University, hosts).
2017 Division I Women's Golf Championships, regional, May 8-10: Athens, Georgia (University of Georgia Golf Course; University of Georgia, host).
2017 Division III Men's and Women's Tennis Championships, May 22-27: Chattanooga, Tennessee (Champions Tennis Club; University of the South, host).
2017 Division I Women's Lacrosse Championship, May 26 and 28: Boston (Gillette Stadium; University of Massachusetts, Amherst, host).
2017 Division II Baseball Championship, May 27-June 3, Grand Prairie, Texas (The Ballpark in Grand Prairie; Angelo State University, host).
The fact that Jacksonville did not get a single one of these events is inexcusable.
^ actually it's not. The NCAA has made it clear they want to go to inclusive communities. We once voted down HRO legislation, and then this year Mayor Curry convinced Council to sweep it under the rug.
Quote from: tufsu1 on October 07, 2016, 07:27:16 PM
^ actually it's not. The NCAA has made it clear they want to go to inclusive communities. We once voted down HRO legislation, and then this year Mayor Curry convinced Council to sweep it under the rug.
Then its an unspoken, undocumented requirement by the NCAA.
I asked if any of those requirements were in any of the RFP's and I was told flat out "No".
^ unspoken? They have been VERY clear about this
The city of Greenville hasn't updated their HRO either, yet they're still hosting the NCAA Basketball Tournament.
Quote from: spuwho on October 07, 2016, 07:39:52 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on October 07, 2016, 07:27:16 PM
^ actually it's not. The NCAA has made it clear they want to go to inclusive communities. We once voted down HRO legislation, and then this year Mayor Curry convinced Council to sweep it under the rug.
Then its an unspoken, undocumented requirement by the NCAA.
I asked if any of those requirements were in any of the RFP's and I was told flat out "No".
Tufsu1, this is incorrect. Greenville also doesn't have citywide LGBT protections and isn't any more "inclusive" than cities passed over, including Jax but most especially Providence. The bigger issue with NC is that HB 2 actively discriminates against transgender people. Even cities without LGBT protections don't do that, and that is where the NCAA is drawing the line. This is more about putting pressure on NC to change a discriminatory law than about rewarding cities who check off particular inclusivity boxes.
Quote from: tufsu1 on October 08, 2016, 12:55:00 PM
^ unspoken? They have been VERY clear about this
"Unspoken" means the NCAA hasnt had a presser to say, "we didnt choose {insert city} because they dont meet our rules of inclusiveness.
Quote from: thelakelander on October 03, 2016, 10:56:38 PM
Let me know how they fare against FSU this week. Something tells me that after Saturday's gale force winds beat down, that LSU gig will start looking better than ever to Jimbo.
;) Jimbo is undefeated against Miami, turns out.
Quote from: thelakelander on October 03, 2016, 10:56:38 PM
Let me know how they fare against FSU this week. Something tells me that after Saturday's gale force winds beat down, that LSU gig will start looking better than ever to Jimbo.
That is #7 ;D
So horribly frustrating! What FSU fan sold their soul to the devil?
Nope, but the row of cupcakes the Ibis men had been munching on had to end sometime Lake.
Did you know:
last 12 games FSU leads series 10-2, have won seven straight, and
THE LAST TIME MIAMI WON AT HOME VS FSU WAS OVER 12 YEARS AGO!!
ALMOST 4500 DAYS SINCE uOFm CELEBRATED A VICTORY ON THEIR OWN FIELD AGAINST THEIR MOST BITTER ARCH RIVAL.
Ouch.
Quote from: thelakelander on October 09, 2016, 08:01:19 AM
So horribly frustrating! What FSU fan sold their soul to the devil?
Not me :) Although I was at the games at the Orange Bowl in 2000, 2002, 2004....and 2006 (when the Noles finally broke through).
Lake...perhaps its the curse of the Orange Bowl!
Quote from: thelakelander on October 09, 2016, 08:01:19 AM
So horribly frustrating! What FSU fan sold their soul to the devil?
Must be getting to ya, Lake! This is the first time I've seen you concede any kind of frustration with your teams. Usually you just ignore and start trash talking the next game or you trash talk your team and claim low expectations. :o
FSU has been like a freaking vampire the last few years. Can't put them away. With that said, I feel a lot better about UM's future with Richt than that loser from Temple. We can still win the Coastal. Who leads the series now? I figure it must be pretty close.
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on October 09, 2016, 06:56:52 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on October 09, 2016, 08:01:19 AM
So horribly frustrating! What FSU fan sold their soul to the devil?
Must be getting to ya, Lake! This is the first time I've seen you concede any kind of frustration with your teams. Usually you just ignore and start trash talking the next game or you trash talk your team and claim low expectations. :o
Lol, we're a pretty young team with a new coach who's winning with Golden's players. I knew that coming in. I didn't even text trash talk to tufsu1 when we got up 13-0. I was impressed with the freshman d-line and linebackers last night. Get ready for a few years of Seminole pain. All we need is another class to provide some depth.
Quote from: thelakelander on October 09, 2016, 07:21:04 PM
Lol, we're a pretty young team with a new coach who's winning with Golden's players. I knew that coming in. I didn't even text trash talk to tufsu1 when we got up 13-0.
I was surprised and a bit worried. Thought maybe Lake's phone was broken. I actually texted him first in the 4th quarter when the Miami fans began acting like....well Miami fans.
lol y'all are too funny
Quote from: thelakelander on October 09, 2016, 07:21:04 PM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on October 09, 2016, 06:56:52 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on October 09, 2016, 08:01:19 AM
So horribly frustrating! What FSU fan sold their soul to the devil?
Must be getting to ya, Lake! This is the first time I've seen you concede any kind of frustration with your teams. Usually you just ignore and start trash talking the next game or you trash talk your team and claim low expectations. :o
Lol, we're a pretty young team with a new coach who's winning with Golden's players. I knew that coming in.
True, I mean Richt has racked up those quality wins over powerhouses FAMU, FAU, APP ST, and Ga Tech. I see why you are so optimistic.
^The whole defensive scheme has changed and its really easy to notice if you're familiar with the team over the last couple of years. Manny Diaz is a vast improvement at DC. I believe they would have struggled against APP ST and flat out lost to GT on the road if Golden were still in charge. The play of the young guys has me pretty optimistic. I like what I'm seeing out of freshman and sophomores like Walton, Richards, Pickney and Quarterman. The OL is currently the weakest unit but I anticipate improvement with incoming classes. Overall, they lost by one point and left 10 to 14 second half points on the field. No need for me to be down.
They aren't winning a national championship this year, but if they play well over the next two weeks, they'll end up in the ACC championship game for a chance of pulling an upset against Clemson. I'll take a double digit win season over Golden's years of .500 ball.
Well, as a "Gator," you should be embarassed. You struggle against shit teams and lose to good ones.
Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on October 11, 2016, 09:35:18 AM
As a Gator, I hate Richt, but have a lot of respect for him. FSU fans might want to temper their shit-talking for the moment. I'd take Richt any day over a grown man who calls himself "Jimbo" and only wins when he has a transcendental rapist quarterback talent*
* Excluding that time they walked through the easiest conference in the country and then got exposed for the frauds they were by Oregon, that is.
How much respect can you have for a guy that lost to Treon Harris...twice!
Also, shouldn't you hate college football? Your rants against the NFL and taxpayer money ring pretty hollow if you support the publicly funded university building stadiums and paying football coaches to exploit a free labor source.
As a non-fan of any of these schools, I can only observe from the exterior.
Miami's weakness in coaching and recruiting over the past 15 years has led to UF's and FSU's abilities to increase. So my thought is with Richt at UM now, I see a gradual shift in recruitment and talent flowing south.
IMHO, I think this will hurt FSU more than UF.
Its a long drawn out argument but student-athletes dont play for "free". Its called a scholarship, they are compensated for their tuition as a part of an agreement to participate in sports. While I agree it it has become more than that with the ridiculous coaches salaries etc.
But the one thing I think student-athletes should get as part of their scholarship is 3 things, health insurance, LTD policy and a tuition completion policy. This maintains their health, their ability to finish school with a degree, and the ability to be compensated if they are permanently injured through competition.
Being from the north, I am still entertained by the intense college rivalries in the south.
I cant believe how many beer bellied Gator fans wearing 80's era tshirts I saw at UNF Arena at the NIT game. Didnt matter who won, I got more entertainment from watching them.
Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on October 11, 2016, 09:35:18 AM
As a Gator, I hate Richt, but have a lot of respect for him. FSU fans might want to temper their shit-talking for the moment. I'd take Richt any day over a grown man who calls himself "Jimbo" and only wins when he has a transcendental rapist quarterback talent*
* Excluding that time they walked through the easiest conference in the country and then got exposed for the frauds they were by Oregon, that is.
So you would take a coach in Richt that never won anything versus a coach that has won a national title... That is a double face palm.
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LOL, so big brother has more rings than daddy? Hmm, who really brings home the bacon ;)
Lake the last Hurricane team to win a NC was so long ago no one on the current team even remembers. Most of them were 5 years old. In sports your as good as yesterdays cat litter. Need proof, just ask the Dolphins.
Need even more proof, check out Notre Dame.
It could have been 50 years ago but someone with less over the same amount of time has little room to call themselves daddy. This is a series that goes on runs. Currently UM leads the series 31-30. FSU's run will eventually come to an end and UM will go on another one. It's been that way for about 20 years now. Enjoy it will it last. I did during the Chris Rix years.
Fair enough. And true.
Quote from: thelakelander on October 13, 2016, 08:42:32 PM
It could have been 50 years ago but someone with less over the same amount of time has little room to call themselves daddy. This is a series that goes on runs. Currently UM leads the series 31-30. FSU's run will eventually come to an end and UM will go on another one. It's been that way for about 20 years now. Enjoy it will it last. I did during the Chris Rix years.
Over the last 20 years? Guess you're referring to the 5 straight wins FSU had from 1995-1999 (including 47-0 in 1997). Followed by 6 straight for Miami from 2000 to 2004 (includes bowl win). They then traded off with FSU winning 3 out of the five games from 2005-2009....and now 7 straight for the Noles.
So FSU has won 15 and Miami 8 - yep, seems pretty balanced to me ;)
31-30 tufsu1. Make it 8 in a row and you'll finally be back at .500 for the series.....although with a fewer rings!
Btw, go back before 1995.....say 1975 - 1994 and you'll notice that Miami went 14-6. As I said earlier, it's a series of runs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State%E2%80%93Miami_football_rivalry
Quote from: thelakelander on October 14, 2016, 12:25:57 AM
Btw, go back before 1995.....say 1975 - 1994 and you'll notice that Miami went 14-6. As I said earlier, it's a series of runs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State%E2%80%93Miami_football_rivalry
Sure, let me just fire up the old VCR and Betamax, and I'll get right on it.
Sorry Lake. After hosting UNC, it looks like The U might be a couple more seasons away from that elusive ACC Championship.
And by the way, whats the inside scoop on the dismissal of Sam Bruce, the top rated recruit from 2016?
We could use an offensive line and some receivers. No worries though. There's a lot to clean up after the Golden era. Bruce is one of several key recruits and starters that have been dismissed feom the team. Bruce had been involved in some trouble. Despite being talented and definitely someone they could use, it seems that Richt wants to keep things on the straight and narrow. That's pretty much the reason he's starting all freshman at linebacker.
I like Richt, but he isn't the coach who is going to fix the problems in Miami. He fielded an average to sometimes above average team at UGA and had much more to work with.
I think he'll be fine in the ACC Coastal and recruiting from South Florida high schools. I think he'd have to seriously struggle to produce what Golden did.
Quote from: thelakelander on October 14, 2016, 12:25:57 AM
Btw, go back before 1995.....say 1975 - 1994 and you'll notice that Miami went 14-6. As I said earlier, it's a series of runs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State%E2%80%93Miami_football_rivalry
you said 20 or so years. That's why I went back to 1995