Big news this morning. Bill Scheu has come off the fence and decided to back Alvin. He's a major Republican about town and someone known in many circles, including having been a major supporter of Audrey Moran. He was appointed Interim Supervisor of Elections for Duval County by Governor Bush following the death of John Stafford some years ago.
QuoteGuest column: Why Alvin Brown should be mayor
As a grieving Audrey Moran supporter, I have anguished about deciding who to vote for as our new mayor.
Candidates Alvin Brown and Mike Hogan have commendable qualities.
I had been undecided. When Hogan failed to appear at Monday night's televised forum on WJCT, I realized that Hogan's history in the mayoral campaign has been one of avoidance.
While I am a Republican and skeptical of the claims/promises of most any Democrat, I must be honest in evaluating the openness of one candidate compared to the controlled timidity of the other.
Brown, an underdog to be sure, has put himself and his views on the line; Hogan has not.
It calls to mind the one quality that any mayor must have, and that is courage. Hogan has a disappointing record when courage is a criterion.
He voted "no" on most things that required vision and risk when he served on the City Council. He was undistinguished in the Legislature.
I don't hear Hogan affirming the future, whether in terms of blessing or opportunity. He is risk-averse and not a person of hope.
Instead, he envisions only the status quo, if not going backward. What a tragic vision. What a lack of confidence in himself and in his fellow citizens.
Read more: http://jacksonville.com/opinion/letters-readers/2011-05-12/story/guest-column-why-alvin-brown-should-be-mayor
QuoteGuest column: Why Alvin Brown should be mayor
What a tragic vision. What a lack of confidence in himself and in his fellow citizens.
Bill Scheu ripped a new a**hole in Hogan.-Josh
Seems the only thing Hogan is running on is that (R) next to his name.
Effing brilliant.
Sit on THAT one, team Hogan.
Folks, I hate to dash cold water on your enthusiasm but it's going to take more than the Metro Jax crowd to put Alvin over the line. Lots of other people have to turn out and vote. Poll numbers are too darn close.
Quote from: Jumpinjack on May 12, 2011, 12:03:06 PM
Folks, I hate to dash cold water on your enthusiasm but it's going to take more than the Metro Jax crowd to put Alvin over the line.
Who has said otherwise?
^^^ Thats what Im saying! Like we dont know people still have to get out and vote. :o
Quote from: duvaldude08 on May 12, 2011, 12:19:38 PM
^^^ Thats what Im saying! Like we dont know people still have to get out and vote. :o
What, we have to vote too? oh snap! :D
Quote from: Jumpinjack on May 12, 2011, 12:03:06 PM
Folks, I hate to dash cold water on your enthusiasm but it's going to take more than the Metro Jax crowd to put Alvin over the line. Lots of other people have to turn out and vote. Poll numbers are too darn close.
This is very true. As a regular reader of the site, I was under the impression that Audrey Moran was going to do a lot better than she did. There are hundreds - thousands? - of people who haven't said a word that are likely to go out and vote the party line.
Lets hope that Hogan's slightly negative campaigning backfires on he and his disciples. :)
+1 There's a good chance of that happening.
Even Hogan's paid staffers are taking a desperate tone today... http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/jim-schoettler/2011-05-12/hogan-camp-slaps-brown-and-media-elite-brown-camp
Bravo! +1
Hogan is becoming his own worst enemy.
Having a campaign of no substance eventually catches up with you, if your opponent can stay in the hunt long enough. It's looks like Brown is doing just that.
Becoming???????????? I think that may be , long ago,, BECAME. and his team is nailing the coffin and doesn't know it .. just yet
Please implode, Hogan campaign. Please implode.
Please voters, remove your heads from your collected nether-regions.
Do as he says, voters! Doctor's orders!! ;)
You've heard of Each One Teach One. Well, Each One Take One - to the polls. Take a family member, a friend or a neighbor to vote. Turn out is critical.
Im up here in NYC, missing you guys, but hey i voted early.
I saw Alvin at memorial park, as he was on a swing to speak everywhere.
I knew he was my man, but he really has such a concrete plan for our city.
I do like Mike Hogan, but when you listen to the candidates thoughts plans ideas for
Jacksonville in 2011, it just doesnt even seem close!
Congrats to alvins team they did a magnificent job!
Oh, the mets won! Go daniel murph!
Quote from: Jumpinjack on May 12, 2011, 12:03:06 PM
Folks, I hate to dash cold water on your enthusiasm but it's going to take more than the Metro Jax crowd to put Alvin over the line. Lots of other people have to turn out and vote. Poll numbers are too darn close.
This....Metro Jacksonville is such a small group of people. I still feel Jacksonville is not smart enough to vote Brown as their mayor. 5 Days left and now there is some drama in the race.
Quote from: stephendare on May 12, 2011, 03:23:15 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on May 12, 2011, 02:56:45 PM
+1 There's a good chance of that happening.
Even Hogan's paid staffers are taking a desperate tone today... http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/jim-schoettler/2011-05-12/hogan-camp-slaps-brown-and-media-elite-brown-camp
I guess calling the Times Union a liberal media elite, and every sensible wealthy republican in town a 'limousine liberal' pissed off the TU board, as the story is now being featured on the front page of www.jacksonville.com ...... way to go, Hoganites!
The TU Board? Who is that?
Just got a nasty mailer today about how Brown wants to spend $20+ million on downtown projects and starve the rest of J-ville to serve "downtown's constituency." It linked him to the Skyway, the courthouse, every bad idea anywhere (none of which he had anything to do with)--I was looking to see whether he was implicated in the South losing the Civil War . . .
Quote from: grimss on May 12, 2011, 08:51:33 PM
Just got a nasty mailer today about how Brown wants to spend $20+ million on downtown projects and starve the rest of J-ville to serve "downtown's constituency." It linked him to the Skyway, the courthouse, every bad idea anywhere (none of which he had anything to do with)--I was looking to see whether he was implicated in the South losing the Civil War . . .
Naw, if we'd had Alvin, we'd of won the damn war!OCKLAWAHA
Typical of Hogan tactics.. Amazing all of the bull$#!t they have come up with and a lot of it is completely untrue
Quote from: stephendare on May 12, 2011, 08:24:10 PM
Quote from: Coolyfett on May 12, 2011, 08:16:10 PM
Quote from: Jumpinjack on May 12, 2011, 12:03:06 PM
Folks, I hate to dash cold water on your enthusiasm but it's going to take more than the Metro Jax crowd to put Alvin over the line. Lots of other people have to turn out and vote. Poll numbers are too darn close.
This....Metro Jacksonville is such a small group of people. I still feel Jacksonville is not smart enough to vote Brown as their mayor. 5 Days left and now there is some drama in the race.
meh. the number of people who post here is under a thousand altogether. The readership is several times larger than folio's.
Also, the Times Union Editorial Board.
Readership? Who are these cowards you speak of?
Quote from: grimss on May 12, 2011, 08:51:33 PM
Just got a nasty mailer today about how Brown wants to spend $20+ million on downtown projects and starve the rest of J-ville to serve "downtown's constituency." It linked him to the Skyway, the courthouse, every bad idea anywhere (none of which he had anything to do with)--I was looking to see whether he was implicated in the South losing the Civil War . . .
Quote from: Timkin on May 12, 2011, 09:22:43 PM
Typical of Hogan tactics.. Amazing all of the bull$#!t they have come up with and a lot of it is completely untrue
its meant to scare conservatives to the polls. Its not about appealing to undecided voters.
Hogan has made downtown his #1 issue against Brown. As an Urban advocate, that scares the bejesus out of me.
Quote from: Demosthenes on May 15, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
Hogan has made downtown his #1 issue against Brown. As an Urban advocate, that scares the bejesus out of me.
why...because you think/know that a lot of people in Duval don't care much about downtown?
As seen on twitter: 64,926 have voted early voting and absentee. 29,654 Democrats, 29,009 Republicans, 6,263 independents/npas. - SOE report Sunday
If you know any person with an inkling to vote for Alvin Brown, you need to make sure they get to their precinct on Tuesday. It's going to be a squeaker.
Do you guys really think Alvin Brown has a chance? Jacksonville making the right choice seems a lil foreign...
I think Alvin is the best chance we have now, and I personally think he has a good chance. I don't want to think abt Hogan in office ...and how rapidly we would decline
We've done it before. It's been a while and we're a little rusty.
I do think it can be done again. I think it can be done on Tuesday. Enough people have to think that and then follow through and do their part.
Quote from: Demosthenes on May 15, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
Hogan has made downtown his #1 issue against Brown. As an Urban advocate, that scares the bejesus out of me.
Hell yea man...that is just crazy! I was thinking the same thing. He should just lie and say he is a fan of the core instead he is actually telling the truth that he hates the core. And whats with the whole Obama connection thing?? I dont see the connections...what because they both black and democrats? They don't seem like the same guy to me. The only REAL angle Hogan has is the lack of experience...but the whole "Obama Jr" and "Brown wants to help downtown" angles are bad takes.
Quote from: Timkin on May 15, 2011, 08:49:56 PM
I think Alvin is the best chance we have now, and I personally think he has a good chance. I don't want to think abt Hogan in office ...and how rapidly we would decline
Tim I dont either... my brother has 3 kids all under eight years old. And I was just telling my niece about mayor Hazouri and how my mom(her grandma) used to have to put change in tolls to cross bridges just trying to explain to her why voting is important. My brother and his wife are both voting, my best friend is as well. This election will have an effect on Jacksonville, just as the others have, from the Jaguars to no tolls to Better Jax Plan to clear air/no smell to cleaner St. Johns to the future. Mayor John Peyton was a failure and he actually had two terms.
I THINK if nothing else positive comes from this particular election , we had more voters this time.. which is how it should be. That said, I would rather Alvin Brown win.. In my heart he will not disappoint us. I think Hogan would disappoint pretty much everyone
Quote from: Timkin on May 12, 2011, 09:22:43 PM
Typical of Hogan tactics.. Amazing all of the bull$#!t they have come up with and a lot of it is completely untrue
Hogan is a typical Republiclown...
Quote from: stephendare on May 15, 2011, 10:30:41 PM
Quote from: Coolyfett on May 15, 2011, 08:48:02 PM
Do you guys really think Alvin Brown has a chance? Jacksonville making the right choice seems a lil foreign...
Yes, he definitely has a chance. Hogan is a weak candidate for the republicans so the partisanship that has been so decisive over the past few years isnt a factor. Its a straight up race between a well known guy and a new guy, and the outcome, as jimmy remarked, is going to be a squeaker.
Every person on the side of Light and Goodness needs to go out and vote fore Alvin before polls close on Tuesday.
6 votes for Brown here , Tuesday.. and anymore we can possibly talk into voting for him ..
Quote from: tufsu1 on May 15, 2011, 08:15:43 PM
Quote from: Demosthenes on May 15, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
Hogan has made downtown his #1 issue against Brown. As an Urban advocate, that scares the bejesus out of me.
why...because you think/know that a lot of people in Duval don't care much about downtown?
In short, yes. If he is able to ride "Downtown Sucks" to a win in the election, its a damning statement of our city.
Quote from: Demosthenes on May 16, 2011, 12:13:39 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on May 15, 2011, 08:15:43 PM
Quote from: Demosthenes on May 15, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
Hogan has made downtown his #1 issue against Brown. As an Urban advocate, that scares the bejesus out of me.
why...because you think/know that a lot of people in Duval don't care much about downtown?
In short, yes. If he is able to ride "Downtown Sucks" to a win in the election, its a damning statement of our city.
Lol, and to think people argue with me when I point out that this is the inevitable result of consolidation tying disparate areas together despite their interests being diametrically opposed to one another. Each part that is self-sufficient should be free to pursue its own interests.
Consolidation or poorly drawn council districts? The problem with the "consolidation alone" argument is we're basically the only major consolidated city in the country with an underutilized urban core and downtown. However, when you look at the way our council districts are drawn, the core has no representation. Every core neighborhood and DT happens to be placed in districts that are heavily suburban populated.
Quote from: thelakelander on May 16, 2011, 07:44:19 AM
Consolidation or poorly drawn council districts? The problem with the "consolidation alone" argument is we're basically the only major consolidated city in the country with an underutilized urban core and downtown. However, when you look at the way our council districts are drawn, the core has no representation. Every core neighborhood and DT happens to be placed in districts that are heavily suburban populated.
What do you mean, the core has no representation? Don Redman has a chunk right between Gaffney and Jones.
Oops... My bad, I stand corrected...
My only problem with Mike Hogan is that.........he has never stated what type of vision he has for the city and that scares me. All he says is that he wont raise taxes and will create jobs. Well Alvin Brown said the same thing. However, Alvin has provided us with a vision also, which gives me more confidence with him. During this campign we have heard little about what Hogan's vision is especially for downtown. Why do we keep mentioning downtown? It is the core of city. If the core dies, we die as a city. It is the heart of Jacksonville. We can not let downtown rot to hell.
The thing is that we dont have to spend millions of dollars to make our DT vibrant. If we just change our stupid parking policies, allow for resturantas and business downtown to have sign's, a few sidwalk cafe's here and there, a few face lifts and DT would have a totally different appeal. If anything right now we are running businesses and residents away from DT.
All I can say is, if Hogan is elected I hope that he does not neglect DT all together. Hopefully, at the LEAST, he can allow some of the simple changes listed above.
Quote from: Ralph W on May 16, 2011, 10:23:50 AM
What do you mean, the core has no representation? Don Redman has a chunk right between Gaffney and Jones.
Oops... My bad, I stand corrected...
Ralph W you hit the nail on the head! None of the above represent the people who put them into office! Kinda like Hiz Honor! Dick Brown was no better and neither is the new guy, whatever the hell his name is that is supposed to represent District 13. That clod ran on the platform of "representing the beaches"! I guess he failed to note the last 5 District 13 Representatives lived on the beaches! So much for Southside being represented!!
Quote from: thelakelander on May 16, 2011, 07:44:19 AM
Consolidation or poorly drawn council districts? The problem with the "consolidation alone" argument is we're basically the only major consolidated city in the country with an underutilized urban core and downtown. However, when you look at the way our council districts are drawn, the core has no representation. Every core neighborhood and DT happens to be placed in districts that are heavily suburban populated.
The problem is that this area is/was a very poor candidate for consolidation. The consolidated area is too large, and is too much of a mix between rural, suburban, and denser urban environments. Add to that the Florida taxpayer-subsidized sprawl-boom of the past 50 years, and what you wound up with is a local government so rife with internal conflicts of interests that the only reasonable outcome are these solomonic compromises that wreck one portion to benefit another, and wind up hurting the whole.
Anyone know where I can pick up an Alvin Brown sign? I signed up for one at the Memorial Park and they dropped it off on Friday but it went missing over the weekend while I was out of town. I live next door to 2 voting sites and would like to have one up for tomorrow. I was going to drop by his campaign office but his website lists a PO Box. Thanks!
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on May 16, 2011, 12:02:01 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on May 16, 2011, 07:44:19 AM
Consolidation or poorly drawn council districts? The problem with the "consolidation alone" argument is we're basically the only major consolidated city in the country with an underutilized urban core and downtown. However, when you look at the way our council districts are drawn, the core has no representation. Every core neighborhood and DT happens to be placed in districts that are heavily suburban populated.
The problem is that this area is/was a very poor candidate for consolidation. The consolidated area is too large, and is too much of a mix between rural, suburban, and denser urban environments. Add to that the Florida taxpayer-subsidized sprawl-boom of the past 50 years, and what you wound up with is a local government so rife with internal conflicts of interests that the only reasonable outcome are these solomonic compromises that wreck one portion to benefit another, and wind up hurting the whole.
Amen, Chris!!!
Quote from: Demosthenes on May 16, 2011, 12:13:39 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on May 15, 2011, 08:15:43 PM
Quote from: Demosthenes on May 15, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
Hogan has made downtown his #1 issue against Brown. As an Urban advocate, that scares the bejesus out of me.
why...because you think/know that a lot of people in Duval don't care much about downtown?
In short, yes. If he is able to ride "Downtown Sucks" to a win in the election, its a damning statement of our city.
Its just crazy how someone can live in a city and only care about their suburban neighborhood. That is crazy.
Assuming he wins .....