10-95 Merger

Started by Dapperdan, July 27, 2010, 09:17:23 AM

tufsu1

perhaps we should wait until construction is complete to judge it

Dog Walker

I'm still impressed with whoever designed the work flow on this project.  Keeping traffic moving while building the thing while keeping access for construction; opening one section, tearing up another all the while.  One hell of a challenge to plan.

On the other hand, going straight toward the bridge to go North and turning left to go South is really, really counter intuitive.  I can only imagine they were very constrained by the footprint and had no other choice.  I think the planners don't like to design left exits.

Maybe TUFSU could give us some insight about the design.
When all else fails hug the dog.

CS Foltz

Dog Walker...........I agree! It is one heck of a challange but like you I question left exits! Most everything  is a right hand exit and for really good reasons!

tufsu1

Quote from: Dog Walker on September 05, 2010, 03:37:52 PM
I think the planners don't like to design left exits.

generally this is true...but sometimes they make sense

CS Foltz

That may be true tufsu...........but I have to point out............reading signs to try and go the correct route may distract people from doing what they need to be doing............as in controling their vehicle! Most people can not drive very well anyway (operative word is "most") and then compound their frustration with an oddball exit and I think when the accident happens.......it will be a bad one!

cityimrov

#50
Wait a minute, I don't have to go by 6 lanes to get to I-95 S anymore from Roosevelt?  I didn't know that.  Yes, I read the signs.  As soon as I get off Roosevelt there's this big I-95S Sign all the way in the left!  I was wondering why I always had to maneuver so dangerously to make an exit.  

Anyone know why the Florida DOT Building is located like 4 feet away from this intersection? 

tufsu1

Quote from: cityimrov on September 06, 2010, 05:48:35 PM
Anyone know why the Florida DOT Building is located like 4 feet away from this intersection? 

the building was there prior...and they actually demolioshed some of it so the improvements could be built

tufsu1

Quote from: cityimrov on September 06, 2010, 05:48:35 PM
Wait a minute, I don't have to go by 6 lanes to get to I-95 S anymore from Roosevelt?  I didn't know that.  Yes, I read the signs.  As soon as I get off Roosevelt there's this big I-95S Sign all the way in the left!  I was wondering why I always had to maneuver so dangerously to make an exit. 

this confusion can be solvbed with 1 fairly simple step....have a sign on Roosevelt telling folks heading to 95 South to stay in the right lane

CS Foltz

So much for planning for contingencies............I guess the planners did not look for enough ahead or around! FDOT is about as competent as JTA!

fieldafm

Quote from: tufsu1 on September 06, 2010, 08:28:43 PM
Quote from: cityimrov on September 06, 2010, 05:48:35 PM
Wait a minute, I don't have to go by 6 lanes to get to I-95 S anymore from Roosevelt?  I didn't know that.  Yes, I read the signs.  As soon as I get off Roosevelt there's this big I-95S Sign all the way in the left!  I was wondering why I always had to maneuver so dangerously to make an exit. 

this confusion can be solvbed with 1 fairly simple step....have a sign on Roosevelt telling folks heading to 95 South to stay in the right lane


From someone who commutes to work every day using this exit... its assinine the way the traffic is currently being routed.  The one single lane towards the right linking 10 to 95 South is always BACKED the hell up in the morning(way more people get off Roosevelt and go 95 South than go 95 North)... and trying to cross over to get to the two left lanes feeding 95 South is dangerous when its not impossible.

I seriously hate the new routing.... 95 North was NEVER the bottleneck, its always has and still is the traffic feeding 95 South that creates the bottleneck.  I hope this gets better when the flyover has been fully executed.

Dog Walker

One positive note on the interchange is that traffic coming from the west now has another exit besides Stockton Street to get to Riverside Ave.  The newly opened Forest St. exit has already taken some of the load off Stockton and our neighborhood streets.
When all else fails hug the dog.

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: tufsu1 on September 06, 2010, 12:43:40 PM
Quote from: Dog Walker on September 05, 2010, 03:37:52 PM
I think the planners don't like to design left exits.

generally this is true...but sometimes they make sense

The parts I don't like about it are already completed. What idiot decided to have that tiny little exit for all of the I-10 to I-95 S traffic over on the right? That thing backs up horribly all the time, it is way too small and poorly designed. And by comparison, the I-95 North exit has like 4 lanes, but most of the traffic isn't going that way at peak traffic times, all the traffic is backed up for miles because everyone needs to use that tiny I-95 South exit.

And no joke, every time I'm going through there I'm almost killed by a bunch of people who are confused (with good reason) by the bizarre layout with all the exits to the left and unclear signage, and with our MFFY society today ("Me First and #$%! You") they all think it's perfectly acceptable to come to a complete stop in the middle of I-10, or just jack over and force you to slam on the brakes to avoid being sideswiped, instead of exiting and re-entering in the correct direction.

Honestly, and I mean this in all seriousness, the interchange that was there before actually worked much better. Usually highway projects are a groan when they're going on because they create congestion, but the result is worthwhile. In this case, they actually took something that was mediocre and made it terrible. I'd rather have mediocre back.


Dapperdan

Quote from: ChriswUfGator on September 07, 2010, 08:34:04 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on September 06, 2010, 12:43:40 PM
Quote from: Dog Walker on September 05, 2010, 03:37:52 PM
I think the planners don't like to design left exits.

generally this is true...but sometimes they make sense

The parts I don't like about it are already completed. What idiot decided to have that tiny little exit for all of the I-10 to I-95 S traffic over on the right? That thing backs up horribly all the time, it is way too small and poorly designed. And by comparison, the I-95 North exit has like 4 lanes, but most of the traffic isn't going that way at peak traffic times, all the traffic is backed up for miles because everyone needs to use that tiny I-95 South exit.

And no joke, every time I'm going through there I'm almost killed by a bunch of people who are confused (with good reason) by the bizarre layout with all the exits to the left and unclear signage, and with our MFFY society today ("Me First and #$%! You") they all think it's perfectly acceptable to come to a complete stop in the middle of I-10, or just jack over and force you to slam on the brakes to avoid being sideswiped, instead of exiting and re-entering in the correct direction.

Honestly, and I mean this in all seriousness, the interchange that was there before actually worked much better. Usually highway projects are a groan when they're going on because they create congestion, but the result is worthwhile. In this case, they actually took something that was mediocre and made it terrible. I'd rather have mediocre back.

Chris,
That one lane for I-95 South on the right is only supposed to be for people coming off 17. If you are comming from 10 West, you should be following the I-95 South signs to the left. I beleive there are two exit lanes there.

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: Dapperdan on September 07, 2010, 09:30:57 AM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on September 07, 2010, 08:34:04 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on September 06, 2010, 12:43:40 PM
Quote from: Dog Walker on September 05, 2010, 03:37:52 PM
I think the planners don't like to design left exits.

generally this is true...but sometimes they make sense

The parts I don't like about it are already completed. What idiot decided to have that tiny little exit for all of the I-10 to I-95 S traffic over on the right? That thing backs up horribly all the time, it is way too small and poorly designed. And by comparison, the I-95 North exit has like 4 lanes, but most of the traffic isn't going that way at peak traffic times, all the traffic is backed up for miles because everyone needs to use that tiny I-95 South exit.

And no joke, every time I'm going through there I'm almost killed by a bunch of people who are confused (with good reason) by the bizarre layout with all the exits to the left and unclear signage, and with our MFFY society today ("Me First and #$%! You") they all think it's perfectly acceptable to come to a complete stop in the middle of I-10, or just jack over and force you to slam on the brakes to avoid being sideswiped, instead of exiting and re-entering in the correct direction.

Honestly, and I mean this in all seriousness, the interchange that was there before actually worked much better. Usually highway projects are a groan when they're going on because they create congestion, but the result is worthwhile. In this case, they actually took something that was mediocre and made it terrible. I'd rather have mediocre back.

Chris,
That one lane for I-95 South on the right is only supposed to be for people coming off 17. If you are comming from 10 West, you should be following the I-95 South signs to the left. I beleive there are two exit lanes there.

People are always confused and jacking over lanes trying to make that one. Also, the bigger one only has 2 lanes to handle the entire flow off of I-10, which is insufficient, they back up daily and the thing was just built. They replaced an exit with 2 lanes that were already insufficient with a more confusing and slower moving one that also has 2 lanes. If you were going to spend all that money, why not just make it 4 lanes or whatnot so the bottlenecks don't start up?


CS Foltz

And this silly thing cost us what.........$100 Million Dollars!