FL-9B to be named Interstate 795

[brainstormer]

^ Exactly!  Unfortunately this requires a philosophical change within leaders and the public which isn't easy.  It can be a very slow and frustrating process.

[CS Foltz]

Well ....if we had some leaders who had the vision, we might have a chance! Most of the public has no flipping idea as to just what is going on or even why.......they just see their money being spent on public service projects right? I don't know about you guys&gals but I kinda get tired of funding every tom dick and harry's money making project with my tax dollars! Maybe we are just looking at the issues from the wrong direction......maybe this is something that should be included in any mayoral/senate/Governor and every other candidates platform? If we start at the local level and branch out from there..........who knows! We need to do something before we don't have the chance to correct the problem!

[tufsu1]

Well ....if we had some leaders who had the vision, we might have a chance!

would you be willing to spend more now in order to save over the long-term (20+ years)?

[brainstormer]

^ Yes, to get what I want.   I'm also fairly young, so I'll still be around in 20 years!

[north miami]

Well ....if we had some leaders who had the vision, we might have a chance!

would you be willing to spend more now in order to save over the long-term (20+ years)?

The public will agree to any cost in the name of low taxes

[CS Foltz]

tufsu................I am not against taxes nor am I against an increase in taxes persay! I am against "Fee's" that are a bandaid in place of "Fiscal Responsibility" from the Federal level down to our level! I am against waste and mismanagement of public funds collected for the various agencies to use! I have yet to see anything from the City making an attempt to control their blatant spending and when the so-called Mayor calls for a 3% paycut from the worker bee's and then ok's Mr Mosely and his pay and thinks nothing of it, it just reinforces the idea that John Boy is just interested in taking care of his and the hell with the rest of us. I have not heard of Johnny saying he is going to take a 3% paycut nor has any of his hench persons....... The GOB Network is hard at work protecting their special interests and the public just gets to pay for it! I could start listing all of the mismanagement from the current administration starting with the Ship Yards or Waste Management, but I am flogging a deceased bovine!

[tufsu1]

Dude...Mr. Mosely no longer works for the City...and deal was no different than any other City employee....its called honoring the union agreement.

as for the fees....garbage collection is currently being subsidized...folks want to see government operate like businesses....they don't often subsidize things....so charging a user fee seems completey in line with that thinking.

[north miami]

here's the rub folks....almost every transportatioon infrastructure project benefits developers in some way...

Some projects benefit developers ONLY and hurt the rest of the citizenry.  Other projects MAY benefit developers AND DO benefit the citizenry.  9B and the Outer Beltway only benefit developers and hurt most of the rest of us.  Get the difference? 

"Roads are the mother's milk of development"
  - Peter R.   St.Joe Co.

[Ethylene]

Dude...Mr. Mosely no longer works for the City...and deal was no different than any other City employee....its called honoring the union agreement.

as for the fees....garbage collection is currently being subsidized...folks want to see government operate like businesses....they don't often subsidize things....so charging a user fee seems completey in line with that thinking.

Mosely's former position was AMIO! These folks are hired and fired at will w/ no protection or benefit of a union contract!

[CS Foltz]

Ethylene................only too true! And only one of two hundred and twenty seven costing us some $27 Million Dollars a year, not to mention if your buddy's with John Boy, you get vacation pay and little plums like that, even though you currently work for the State now.................it must be nice! Besides tufsu, you leave a city job what guarantee sick leave, vacation will be paid? Union only goes so far and I am not sure that the upper management is represented by any union other than the Nifty Fifty!