16 yr old gets life for murder of pizza delivery driver.

[Sportmotor]

That little POS is crying? He should be giving death by pizza oven.

[vicupstate]

This reminds me of a similiar crime that happened about 1-2 years ago in Columbia SC.  A young guy, about 15-16 that had been a good kid basically, started to fall into the wrong crowd and tried to pull off a pizza delivery armed robbery with his buddies. 

In this case, the delivery guy either had a gun or took the one that was pulled on him.  The driver shot the young kid. The kid bleed out yelling 'I don't want to die' while his buddies hauled ass. 

By comparison, that kid made out worse than the Jax kid.  Parents, always know who your kids are hanging out with and what they are doing.  The Columbia kid had both parents at home, and had good grades too.  Don't think it can't happen to your kid.   

[vicupstate]

One other lesson to learn, is ALWAYS give up the cash.  It's not worth the life of anyone, even a thug.

I was robbed at gunpoint in college, while delivering for Dominoes.  I lived to tell about it, and that's what I did.     

[thelakelander]

Speaking of parents, what do you all think about the other teen in this case that recieved 25 years for his role?  Evidently, he could not participate in the robbery that night because it was later than his father's curfew.

2 more teens sentenced to prison in Jacksonville pizza driver's death

Sams also was involved in both robberies and provided the gun Hartley used to kill Hotham. He wasn’t present the night Hotham died because he had to be home to obey his father’s curfew.

Hotham’s sister, Roxanne Tweedy, said after court she accepted the apologies from the teens and their families. She said justice was served by their sentences in light of each one’s culpability.

Byrd told Hotham’s family he takes full responsibility for her murder and the robbery attempt.

“Even though it might not make any difference, I’m sorry,” he said.

Sams, who learned of the murder on the news, said he immediately felt bad because “someone had lost their mother.”

“If I hadn’t given my cousin the gun, she would be here today,” he told Hotham’s family.

full article: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-06-03/story/2-more-teens-sentenced-prison-jacksonville-pizza-drivers-death

[NotNow]

One other lesson to learn, is ALWAYS give up the cash.  It's not worth the life of anyone, even a thug.

I was robbed at gunpoint in college, while delivering for Dominoes.  I lived to tell about it, and that's what I did.     

Mmm...no thanks.  I refuse to be a victim if I can help it. 

[ProjectMaximus]

One other lesson to learn, is ALWAYS give up the cash.  It's not worth the life of anyone, even a thug.

I was robbed at gunpoint in college, while delivering for Dominoes.  I lived to tell about it, and that's what I did.     

You weren't allowed to carry more than 20 bucks. Were they happy with the change? (glad you survived that!)

[vicupstate]

One other lesson to learn, is ALWAYS give up the cash.  It's not worth the life of anyone, even a thug.

I was robbed at gunpoint in college, while delivering for Dominoes.  I lived to tell about it, and that's what I did.     

Mmm...no thanks.  I refuse to be a victim if I can help it. 

The best way to 'help it', is to drop the macho bravado bullshit, and realize your life means more than some dough and some 'dough'.  The ones that you leave behind, ain't going to be comforted by your idot 'bravery'.

[heights unknown]

All I can say is...that's what he gets! I don't care what anyone says...the Parents are to blame for the kids ending up this way; why?  Because they are kids and when they come in this world they know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! The first 18 years of their life they rely on their Parents, and other "should be" responsible Adults around them, to teach them responsibility for their actions, right from wrong, how to stay out of trouble, and the consequences of their actions whether right or wrong! Yes it's a shame that he got what he got, and he ended up the way he ended up, but a human life has been taken and someone's Father, Uncle, Brother, Cousin etc. is no longer here to be enjoyed...yes, THAT'S WHAT HE GETS!

"HU"

[NotNow]

One other lesson to learn, is ALWAYS give up the cash.  It's not worth the life of anyone, even a thug.

I was robbed at gunpoint in college, while delivering for Dominoes.  I lived to tell about it, and that's what I did.    

Mmm...no thanks.  I refuse to be a victim if I can help it.  

The best way to 'help it', is to drop the macho bravado bullshit, and realize your life means more than some dough and some 'dough'.  The ones that you leave behind, ain't going to be comforted by your idot 'bravery'.

Oh it's not "macho bravado bullshit".  I get scared all the time.  It is principle.  If it is possible to resist, I will.  

Please don't call me "idot".

[NotNow]

Vicup,

I do not mean to be disrespectful to your point of view.  But mine is every bit as valid.  There are many things worth fighting for.  Each individual has to decide for themselves, based on their own principles and values, what is worth placing themselves at risk to protect.  Many good people have died protecting only an IDEA.  It really comes down to what an individual values. 

I also highlighted in red, if possible to resist in the  case of robbery.  I realize now that my original post could have been taken as a criticism of your action, and I did not mean it to be.  Without an opportunity to resist, I would take exactly the same action as you.

I hope that this post clarifies my thoughts on this subject.

[NotNow]

Yes, please do not call people idiots.  It is namecalling and it violates our rules of civility.

It is ok to say that this kind of action is idiotic, but not to call someone directly an idiot.

Although to be fair, it seems that the comment is directed towards a breed of 'bravery' rather than an individual.  I think that the possessive pronoun your idiot bravery makes it awfully close, however.

So censuring political ideas could be called...a cowardly act?