Landing bill moves forward without preservation funds, but mayor may veto

[KuroiKetsunoHana]

regrettably, johnn y's right.  sleiman's such a useless tool that he's essentially pooping all over the dinner table.  while the city has screwed up here too, sleiman has dug his own hole.  there are businesses that i'll hate to see go, but the way the landing's beïng managed, there's really no way to save them--so it's better to start fresh.

[Fallen Buckeye]

If developers were chomping at the bit for riverfront land to develop in downtown then there would be something at the Shipyards and that JEA site on the Southbank. I think the city should hold up it's end of the bargain to give the Landing a fair chance at success, and if it ends up bust so be it. I don't think anyone benefits by the Landing failing.

[thelakelander]

The Landing parking deal is dead.

The deal that would allow Jacksonville Landing owner Toney Sleiman to have purchased additional downtown parking space died this afternoon when the City Council failed to override a veto by Mayor John Peyton.

Unlike last month, when it voted 13-0 to approve a bill that would have given $3.5 million to Sleiman to allow him to buy a 300-space lot at the corner of Hogan and Bay streets, the council fell four votes short of overturning the promised veto.

Peyton said he didn't approve of the bill because it didn't add parking spaces downtown but instead simply rearranged them from other businesses.

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/mike-marino/2011-03-08/council-cant-override-peyton-veto-landing-parking-deal

[kells904]

...OMFG.

[Steve]

Well, let's hope we elect someone smart here for mayor.

[thelakelander]

Oh please, let's not add to downtown's existing supply of parking spaces and lots.  We have to many, we need to better utilize what's already in place, while getting rid of a few.  The Landing issue should be put on the back burner until a new administration is in place.

[tufsu1]

Well, let's hope we elect someone smart here for mayor.

for Toney Sleiman that would be Mike Hogan

remember, City Council overrode the Mayor's veto earlier this year without a problem...maybe they actually figured out the deal wasn't so good after all

[Jimmy]

Well, let's hope we elect someone smart here for mayor.

for Toney Sleiman that would be Mike Hogan

remember, City Council overrode the Mayor's veto earlier this year without a problem...maybe they actually figured out the deal wasn't so good after all

That's right.  Sleiman has poured a lot of money into Mike Hogan's campaign chest for mayor. 

[thelakelander]

Well, let's hope we elect someone smart here for mayor.

for Toney Sleiman that would be Mike Hogan

remember, City Council overrode the Mayor's veto earlier this year without a problem...maybe they actually figured out the deal wasn't so good after all

Seems like the deal changed from the original form.  In any event, regardless of whether it was good or not, let's hope no one seriously believes that downtown needs more parking to resolve the Landing's issues.

[tufsu1]

agreed

[TheProfessor]

agreed. the landing does not need anymore parking.

[thelakelander]

All the landing needs is "dedicated" parking.  However, this doesn't mean we need additional parking in downtown.

[Garden guy]

All the landing needs is "dedicated" parking.  However, this doesn't mean we need additional parking in downtown.

The landing does not need dedicated parking..there are plenty of parking downtown near by....lots..jacksonville is just full of people who want to park at the front door....it is called downtown....you would'nt get that kind of parking in any major city...why here?

[thelakelander]

Every major retail center in a sprawlbug with no significant foot traffic needs dedicated parking to lure national chains. This is not a knock on Jax residents, it's retail 101.

[Garden guy]

Every major retail center in a sprawlbug with no significant foot traffic needs dedicated parking to lure national chains. This is not a knock on Jax residents, it's retail 101.

Umm..if you have'nt noticed...."The landing is not a major shopping center".....there is'nt enough going on there for them to have their own parking...live like the rest of downtown and let your people use the same parking as everyone else...