Landing bill moves forward without preservation funds, but mayor may veto

[Mattius92]

The North and South Banks need to be created as one. Like a master riverbank redevelopment plan. And we can keep the Main Street bridge for vehicular traffic but widening the sidewalks on it would be smart.

[Jim]

We did create a River Walk redevelopment plan several years back.

Lake, you still have all that stuff handy?

[thelakelander]

Here you go:

[Keith-N-Jax]

Wow I remember this from metjax, that was a while back and we still havent moved anywhere. Kinda like being in traffic for life with no exits. This is how our river front should look and were still debating about parking.

[Mattius92]

we certainly need rail. And the southbank plan is really neat. However I dont think any of it has been done.

[Jim]

However I dont think any of it has been done.

It hasn't.  City Hall prefers to spend $100k's to millions on consultants and plans and then do nothing with them instead of giving serious considerations to the ideas we've presented over the years for free.

[Keith-N-Jax]

Well thats not completely true, Keith.  Think of how different the conversation is now.  BRT gone.  Rail a near reality.

Stephen until they are laying down rail I will feel no different. I'm hopeful.

[Keith-N-Jax]

Stephen the Landing remain unchanged, friendship fountain still broke, shipyards empty, jea site empty, brooklyn park empty, lavilla destroyed and fenced off, klutho park and so on and so on. Like I said I am hopeful, but lets not kid ourselves ok.

[Keith-N-Jax]

Sometimes I dont know what to think about this city, but when I drive across the fuller warren bridge at night I always like what I see, but know it could be better. Anyway its going to be interesting to see what happens now with the Landing. Its time to get this done and move on to the next project. BTW nicely said Stephen.

[tufsu1]

at least they had a decent idea with putting the Main St Bridge on a road diet...I think a 2-lane or 3-lane (1 reversible) bridge would be great...and would allow for bike lanes and a wider sidewalk.

Why not keep the lane count as is and widen the sidewalks out away from roads?  

because honestly it doesn't feel very safe right now...the lanes just aren't wide enough, especially without a separator for oncoming traffic....the steel grates are quite slippery in wet weather.

[tufsu1]

Wow I remember this from metjax, that was a while back and we still havent moved anywhere. Kinda like being in traffic for life with no exits. This is how our river front should look and were still debating about parking.

5 years is not a very long time when it comes to planning....often, it takes 10-20 years to implement even the best ideas.

[thelakelander]

Unfortunately, we're not starting from scatch.  Its taken us over 40 years to get to this point.

[Jim]

at least they had a decent idea with putting the Main St Bridge on a road diet...I think a 2-lane or 3-lane (1 reversible) bridge would be great...and would allow for bike lanes and a wider sidewalk.

Why not keep the lane count as is and widen the sidewalks out away from roads? 

because honestly it doesn't feel very safe right now...the lanes just aren't wide enough, especially without a separator for oncoming traffic....the steel grates are quite slippery in wet weather.

The lanes are 10 feet wide.  That's not wide enough for non-truck, low volume, low speed traffic?

[thelakelander]

Perhaps major traffic should be rerouted via the Acosta/Jefferson/Broad connection, considering JTA is preparing to rebuild those streets?

[tufsu1]

10 foot lanes are the minimum recommended for non-local streets....all I'm saying is 4 10' lanes with opposing traffic not separated is not the best...A new bridge would typically be designed with 11 or 12' lanes, a separator of some form, and paved shoulders (or bike lane).

Since the traffic demands don't require 4 lanes, why not downsize the road?