ATM Robbery Sparks Ruminations on Capitalism

Started by BridgeTroll, April 17, 2010, 10:29:59 AM

Dog Walker

Sport, those ARE assembly lines.  Each task is broken down into many small parts, each of which is repeated again and again.  No thought needed, no skill needed.  Nobody there makes a complete sandwich much less a complete meal.  It could all be done by robots (the french fries already are) but unskilled labor is cheaper.

Nasty workplaces, nasty food.
When all else fails hug the dog.

JC

Quote from: Dog Walker on April 22, 2010, 09:49:30 AM
Sport, those ARE assembly lines.  Each task is broken down into many small parts, each of which is repeated again and again.  No thought needed, no skill needed.  Nobody there makes a complete sandwich much less a complete meal.  It could all be done by robots (the french fries already are) but unskilled labor is cheaper.

Nasty workplaces, nasty food.

And then what jobs do those individuals do when they get their layoff check?

Sportmotor

Quote from: JC on April 22, 2010, 09:53:55 AM

And then what jobs do those individuals do when they get their layoff check?

Sell drugs!
I am the Sheep Dog.

JC

Quote from: Sportmotor on April 22, 2010, 10:01:43 AM
Quote from: JC on April 22, 2010, 09:53:55 AM

And then what jobs do those individuals do when they get their layoff check?

Sell drugs!

I love when people make dumb comments to cover for their lack of follow through.  If you dont have an answer just say so, I know I dont but I can promise you that these people would receive some welfare subsidy and medicaid.

Dog Walker

Maybe they could go back to school and learn to do a better, more rewarding and higher paying job?  Start a lawn service, learn to really cook and work in a real restaurant.  Get certified as a day care worker, teacher's aide, truck driver..........

The world is not static.  Jobs become obsolete and people move on to other things.
When all else fails hug the dog.

JC

Quote from: Dog Walker on April 22, 2010, 11:19:58 AM
Maybe they could go back to school and learn to do a better, more rewarding and higher paying job?  Start a lawn service, learn to really cook and work in a real restaurant.  Get certified as a day care worker, teacher's aide, truck driver..........

The world is not static.  Jobs become obsolete and people move on to other things.

I agree with this, however are you willing to pay for this retraining?  Should the employer of the displaced worker pay?  What if we are talking about a single mom, who should support her children while she goes to school?

Sportmotor

Quote from: JC on April 22, 2010, 10:39:11 AM
Quote from: Sportmotor on April 22, 2010, 10:01:43 AM
Quote from: JC on April 22, 2010, 09:53:55 AM

And then what jobs do those individuals do when they get their layoff check?

Sell drugs!

I love when people make dumb comments to cover for their lack of follow through.  If you dont have an answer just say so, I know I dont but I can promise you that these people would receive some welfare subsidy and medicaid.
Sarcasm, even tho I know a well off former employ who I fired when I did my tour of duty at McDonalds who started his living that way, way way back when  :P
I am the Sheep Dog.

NotNow

Quote from: JC on April 22, 2010, 11:40:40 AM
Quote from: Dog Walker on April 22, 2010, 11:19:58 AM
Maybe they could go back to school and learn to do a better, more rewarding and higher paying job?  Start a lawn service, learn to really cook and work in a real restaurant.  Get certified as a day care worker, teacher's aide, truck driver..........

The world is not static.  Jobs become obsolete and people move on to other things.

I agree with this, however are you willing to pay for this retraining?  Should the employer of the displaced worker pay?  What if we are talking about a single mom, who should support her children while she goes to school?

No, No, Her family or boyfriend or babies daddy or her church or other charity. 
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Sportmotor

There are many many many good scholarship out to be had. A majority the requirements are enrollment in school and a paper to be turned in and you have the money.
Student loans are also for a reason should you need them.

JSO's Community Service Officers, pay for full collage if your intrest is criminal justice which can lead into many fields in itself. With a decent pay in its own right to have your collage fully paid for.
I am the Sheep Dog.

NotNow

And, as I can testify, the GI Bill will pay you back in spades for service to your country!
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Sportmotor

I am the Sheep Dog.

Dog Walker

I am convinced that the huge growth in prosperity and wealth in this country in the 50's and 60's is directly a result of the GI bill giving millions of WWII vets the chance to go to college.  The GI bill has to be the best return on investment that this country has ever made.

A lot of us worked full time at numbskull jobs while going to school too.
When all else fails hug the dog.

JC

Quote from: Dog Walker on April 22, 2010, 04:28:28 PM
I am convinced that the huge growth in prosperity and wealth in this country in the 50's and 60's is directly a result of the GI bill giving millions of WWII vets the chance to go to college.  The GI bill has to be the best return on investment that this country has ever made.

A lot of us worked full time at numbskull jobs while going to school too.

During the 50's and 60's the lions share of products sold in the US were still manufactured in the US and a great number of those jobs were union.  Are you saying that had no impact on the economic prosperity of the period, or just less impact?

What branch of the military did you serve in?

Also, are you proposing that poor people should have to serve in the military (whose motives are legitimately questioned, most famously by Smedley Butler) in order to go to college?


Sportmotor

Quote from: JC on April 22, 2010, 05:35:48 PM
Quote from: Dog Walker on April 22, 2010, 04:28:28 PM
I am convinced that the huge growth in prosperity and wealth in this country in the 50's and 60's is directly a result of the GI bill giving millions of WWII vets the chance to go to college.  The GI bill has to be the best return on investment that this country has ever made.

A lot of us worked full time at numbskull jobs while going to school too.

During the 50's and 60's the lions share of products sold in the US were still manufactured in the US and a great number of those jobs were union.  Are you saying that had no impact on the economic prosperity of the period, or just less impact?

What branch of the military did you serve in?

Also, are you proposing that poor people should have to serve in the military (whose motives are legitimately questioned, most famously by Smedley Butler) in order to go to college?



how did you get poor people go to the military for collage?
I am the Sheep Dog.

NotNow

I am saying that while my family situation did not allow for me to afford college, my (proud) service in the military (where I personally witnessed countless acts of quiet heroism by young Americans, and served in many HONORABLE missions) included the benefit of the G. I. Bill, which paid for most of my degree.  I am saying that it is one of MANY opportunities (as Sportmotor laid out) that exist in this nation for your example of a poor single mother to get an education and a good job.  And I count military service as a good job.
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