Jacksonville's 2030 Mobility Plan

[finehoe]

The challenge now is in plan implementation.

Forever and always the hard part in this city.

[PhanLord]

Is it just me or does table E-4 have some things in twice
(Rail and Philips Hwy 4-6)
(Entries 1 and 9)

and why have bus-rapid transport and rail on same corridor (with pretty much same stations)

(I'm probably missing something )

[Tripoli1711]

I think the duplicitous routes of BRT and Commuter Rail in some places has been something complained about by those on this site in the past.  Like I said, I am sure some warts will come to the surface, but it's a great starting place none the less.

[JeffreyS]

The Council needs to approve this asap. Then we need to start selling it to developers, new business and all manner of in fill.

[cline]

Then we need to start selling it to developers

If it is approved and adopted I don't think we have to sell developers anything, they will be required to follow this-which would be a good thing.

[ralpho37]

Forgive my ignorance, but I didn't carefully read the full study...  Is this saying that the city is going start on a commuter rail project within 5 years???

[JeffreyS]

I meant selling developers on doing projects in Jax that they might not have before the plan. Attracting developer dollars is a big part of investing in transit.

[Coolyfett]

When you say Jacksonville....do you mean city counsel? Jta? Who is proposing this for 2030?

[thelakelander]

Cooly, this plan will have to be approved by Council and the planning department is leading the way.  Right now I'm eating lunch in Pensacola but I'll try to answer several other questions in this thread when I get to town later tonight.

[PhanLord]

if those duplicate entry in table E-4 are errors then that lowers cost projection by 74 / 50 millions (1/5th of cost)

makes it easier to sell, when it costs less

[tufsu1]

OK, I'm missing something on the mobility fee/tax...is that something designed to be assessed to the developers if the propose a change (i.e., something like Nocatee would get hit with a much larger mobility fee than a development in one of the urban zones) or is that a tax assessed on property owners that live in the area (higher prop tax increase for, say, Bartram Park vs Arlington or some such)?

the mobility fee will be paid by new development only...and will be paid at the time of permitting/approval....similar to an impact fee.

[tufsu1]

Is it just me or does table E-4 have some things in twice
(Rail and Philips Hwy 4-6)
(Entries 1 and 9)

and why have bus-rapid transport and rail on same corridor (with pretty much same stations)

(I'm probably missing something )

part of the reason things are listed twice is that they are in different mobility districts...for example, commuter rail along Philips is shown as $20 million twice...the real cost to the City (25% share of total cost) is $40 million.

And, yes, sometimes there are road and transit projects right next to each other...regardless of commuter rail, portions of Philips Hwy will need to be widened to 6 lanes (which offsets the need to widen I-95)...the key will be to include sidewalks and bike lanes in the widening along with new design standards.

[Charles Hunter]

Not sure I believe the streetcar and 2 commuter rail lines within 5 years (who has the $$?).  Sounds great, though!  

[CS Foltz]

Nice that the local end must come up with 25% but the funding end is still somewhat murky to me! With the current council and administration in place.............the going will be slow!

[pwhitford]

I read.  I swooned.  I recovered.  And now I ask: what can we do to make sure this actually becomes a reality?  Not to be a wet blanket or anything, but this site is littered with stories about great plans that were approved and endorsed and acclaimed and celebrated, but that eventually died a slow and lonely death or were chipped away at until the original, brilliant intent was lost or destroyed.  We have been tireless advocates for change and now it seems to be upon us.  This could begin the transformation of this sleepy little burgh of complacent "also-rans" into a major metropolitan player who finally recognizes its potential and position as the gateway to the rest of Florida to the south and 80% of the population of the US to the north, with roads, rail and runways to spare.  So what do we do to make sure it really comes to pass?  How do we mobilize and get behind this?  I'll start with a more obvious question: What can I do to make sure this becomes a reality?