Light Rail Commuters in Clay versus the Outer Beltway??

[Ocklawaha]

A lot of the cost of the route over to I-95 involves a rather long river crossing, plus all of the land they will need from Middleburg to I-95.

...And let's not forget the insane plan to encircle and effectively distroy the only logical location for a future commercial airport in Clay County, LEE FIELD.

Using the ALREADY 4 lane right-of-way of SR 16 through the old Naval Air Base at Green Cove Springs would allow for future runway extensions beyond the WWII standard 6,000' to a more conventional 8,000 which is within the range of some jet aircraft. More brilliant long range planning from Clay-FDOT?  

OCKLAWAHA

[Ocklawaha]

Split the hairs here, the "less traffic" only applies to those on the train, it does NOT refer to a physical condition on any roadway.

From the Outer Beltway Is Dead Thread...

Quote from: Mattius92 on February 17, 2011, 02:29:09 PM

...With 180,000+ people and two main routes for those people to commute out of Clay into Duval, its just a hellhole... 

I so say that subdivisions have killed Clay, grid networks are so much better, and personally I don't see why they are so unappealing.

I can only imagine what would happen to that traffic hellhole (great description for it, btw) if any kind of commuter rail actually started running up 17 from Kingsley or even Doctor's Inlet.

Perchance to dream...

I re-posted this here as a heads up/warning to every activist and concerned citizen for the following reason:
Put Light Rail down the middle of Blanding with an average speed of 40 mph (which is quite high) and it will do NOTHING for the traffic congestion. Put commuter rail over on the CSX from Green Cove Springs to Downtown Jacksonville with an average speed of 50 mph, and it too will do NOTHING to cure the traffic problems. We should all use caution in this because this theme, IE: "a cure for traffic" is a huge misnomer, a recurring fantasy often quoted by zealots which is certain to be taken up by the automobile lobby and thrown back at us as, "SEE! It didn't fix a thing!"

Bottom line here, mass transit should NEVER be sold as a fix for traffic, congestion, or even travel time. While transit can sometimes help in those areas it is not a cure, in fact there isn't one. What mass transit offers the world is an option, a clean, convenient, competitive, alternative choice that allows everyone within walking/connecting or park-and-ride range a daily opportunity to avoid the gridlock without the hassle.

Of course blowing past the fools on the super-slab can be a hoot!

OCKLAWAHA