How to bring people downtown

Started by Bostech, January 23, 2010, 01:57:37 AM

Fallen Buckeye

You know if we actually made some real investment into the Skyway and developed it into a practical transit option for the urban core that might be an attraction in and of itself. It could be something of people use to identify Jacksonville in the way that people think of subways when they think of New York City. Rather than pussyfoot around with it actually build it out into the places where it would be useful. Build stations that are beautiful and functional. Infrastructure doesn't have to be boring. Just look at the Roman aqueducts. Form and function. Skyway actually might have a leg up on subway in that it offers a great perspective of the city rather that a view of a hole in the ground.

CS Foltz


CS Foltz

Better yet...........lets convert City Hall to a real entertainment facility? We could allways tax ourselves to build a new one?

samiam

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Quote from: Fallen Buckeye on February 06, 2010, 05:49:39 PM
You know if we actually made some real investment into the Skyway and developed it into a practical transit option for the urban core that might be an attraction in and of itself. It could be something of people use to identify Jacksonville in the way that people think of subways when they think of New York City. Rather than pussyfoot around with it actually build it out into the places where it would be useful. Build stations that are beautiful and functional. Infrastructure doesn't have to be boring. Just look at the Roman aqueducts. Form and function. Skyway actually might have a leg up on subway in that it offers a great perspective of the city rather that a view of a hole in the ground.

I said the same thing several years ago and it doesn't have to be that expensive the current skyway downtown is way over built. it looks like it could support 10 times the weight of the trams. After it crosses over state and union street it could follow hogans creek and steadily decline in height until it reached Shands. riverside would be a little trickier but I'm sure it could be done

samiam

If the city would admit that they built a skyway to nowere and to fix that mistake they need X amount of dollars the Feds might help out

Sportmotor

I know what could bring people downtown

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na but a really big popular club would do it. Or big named store fronts, really alot can and hope something does happen. Just get something that the suburbanites will come bring family and go to for fun and your golden.

Space ship would have me living downtown XD
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Quote from: Fallen Buckeye on February 06, 2010, 05:49:39 PM
You know if we actually made some real investment into the Skyway and developed it into a practical transit option for the urban core that might be an attraction in and of itself. It could be something of people use to identify Jacksonville in the way that people think of subways when they think of New York City. Rather than pussyfoot around with it actually build it out into the places where it would be useful. Build stations that are beautiful and functional. Infrastructure doesn't have to be boring. Just look at the Roman aqueducts. Form and function. Skyway actually might have a leg up on subway in that it offers a great perspective of the city rather that a view of a hole in the ground.

Actually now that we've gone this far with it, we should at least build it out to were it's planned end points. Federal money is available right now to extend it in 4 directions if we just ask for it. To A.P. Randolph/Stadiums 1 mile M/L (and we could probably attract another hotel or shipyards project with it); Shand's/FSCJ 1 mile M/L; San Marco, Atlantic at FEC RY, 1 mile M/L; Riverside, Annie Lytle 1 mile M/L; this would double the size of the current trackage to about 8 miles, and finally connect real destinations. This is the very same reason why I've been pushing heritage streetcars for 30 years. Talk about a City transit ID? We'd have "Star Wars" above the street, and "Old Granddad" down below, on the street.  The Skyway has two nice advantages as a monorail system. Over the street and over the river or railroads, and actually completed it would have some of the economic engine attractors that other fixed transit has. Toss in another 8 miles of streetcar, and maybe 16 miles of Commuter Rail, and we could claim 4 modes operating over 36 miles of fixed routes.


As it operates right now, the Skyway reminds one of a Disney Shuttle... In our case it runs from parking lot DUMBO to parking lot GOOFY!
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