Anyone interested in true SPR community meeting?

[Stenodave]

Well, today I signed our contract with Lisa to have our house built on 4th street.  We also had the chance to meet some of our neighbors and are really looking forward to meeting more in Feb at first Fridays. 

I also wanted to thank Lisa for the "please boycott/do not shop at list" for the neighborhood.  The SPAR package included other things such as "the halfway houses are the devil" and "please give Silas the cold shoulder" flyers.  I promise to drink the "Kool-aid".  I'm also happy to hear that if me and my wife join SPAR during the month of Jan, it is triple membership month, that we will increase the membership by 6!

Who at SPAR do I contact regarding the incomplete flyer I recieved today about their book burning rally this weekend?  You didn't list a start time, I don't want to be late.

[cindi]

Cindi, you offering to help form a new organization?  To be honest, while it has and is being talked about, I think one of the other existing organizations would be the better way to go.

nope, not at all.  as for the other existing organization - i think i have already said somewhere, if you think for a minute you are going to unass the current leadership, you are just plain silly.  there will be world peace and my house will be completely rehabbed before that happens. which brings me back to the original question - if all the people that are so opposed to SPAR can do it so much better, why aren't they?  over the past couple of weeks there has been ample news coverage etc.  or does it boil down to a case of mouth overloading the butt?
God can turn water into wine, but he can’t turn whining into anything

[CS Foltz]

Thanks stephendare.............but if fsu813 wants to have a battle of wits with me, he is only half armed so let him take his best shot! I have ignored worse and in his case probably a better person for it!

[CS Foltz]

cindi.............this is something that I had suggested long ago! SPAR wants to play games then let them, form another organization and just by pass them. Adhear to the by-laws, Florida Laws and Codes and away you go! I know that this is a simple thing for something that would take some work but Springfield may have to if SPAR continues to represent no one but their inner circle & a select few! Springfield deserves better!

[fsu813]

Cindi,

I suggested  many months ago that if people think Spar does such a horrible job, then they should try and do it better. I suggested this over and over again. Surprise! Noone really wants to put in the time, energy, and money to create & run effective organization that does everything Spar does.... they'd rather just complain. I shouldn't say "noone", as some, i'm sure, would. Including myself, if it I was ever so inclined.

Also, my reference to the group 6 isn't that there are only 6 people who dislike Spar for one reason or another. It's the group of 6 who regular bash Spar for questionable reasons or in questionable ways. You can count of them always, no matter, having something bad to say about them. This is the group of 6 that I am referring.

[fsu813]

"Who at SPAR do I contact regarding the incomplete flyer I recieved today about their book burning rally this weekend?  You didn't list a start time, I don't want to be late."

The virgin sacrifice is at 12 Noon and the "round up" is at 3pm......so probably somewhere in between.

[sheclown]

It is a leadership issue, really...If Jack Meeks stepped up to the plate and made the organization follow its by-laws, quit attacking neighbors and business owners, and focused on transparency, I know that I would, for one, shut up.  Louise has lost credibility with too many people to be the leader that this neighborhood needs and she is leading the crew down dead-end roads.

I have high hopes for SAMBA.  Joe and I are going to give this organization our support.

The Women's Club is a fine organization -- you don't hear me being negative about them.

This neighborhood needs a leader, it is crying out for one.  Will it be SAMBA, The Women's Club, or will SPAR's Jack Meeks take control of the situation? 

time will tell.

[ChriswUfGator]

Stephen Dare started sharp. There was a thread about it. Is it still alive?

There were like 6 threads about it, LOL

Every single one got shit-bombed with drama by SPAR supporters and the moderators locked them down. I guess Stephen can always try for #7, but I think we all know what's going to happen to it, so I'm not real sure what the point would be.

I think SHARP's being handled solely through e-mail now. The e-mail address is floating around here somewhere.

[cindi]

Stephen Dare started sharp. There was a thread about it. Is it still alive?

There were like 6 threads about it, LOL

Every single one got shit-bombed with drama by SPAR supporters and the moderators locked them down. I guess Stephen can always try for #7, but I think we all know what's going to happen to it, so I'm not real sure what the point would be.

I think SHARP's being handled solely through e-mail now. The e-mail address is floating around here somewhere.

so if someone "shit-bombs" SHARP it gets shut down but check every thread under springfield - shitbombing of SPAR is a requirement.  if an organization is so sensitive to shitbombing so early in it's development, it's going to have a hard road ahead in springfield.  so, what it appears to boil down to is - the spar haters want themla and louise OUT and a complete cleaning of house as far as SPAR board member are concerned.  The odds of this happening are about the same as me winning the lotto (and i don't play the lotto so the odds just got a little worse), not quite sure why this is so hard for people to grasp. instead of getting a firm grasp on reality and moving on the whining just keeps on. 

[CS Foltz]

Goes without question that "Aunt Elubelle" should resign! She and Johnny both share an outlook that does not cater to the local area or neighborhood! From what I have gathered, talking to so-called professionals in my world, two to five years down range before values are stabilized and start to go up! If Springfield has not experienced bottoming yet...........it's coming! Last time I was through that area, Main Street was still a work in progress but the general area had not picked up as to looks or cleanliness! Many many empty lots and old bldgs that had failed business's in them.......area needs help and SPAR is not doing the job!

[sheclown]

Oh really?  Well, let's post the ad here and let others see if this place is being leased as a single family home or as a quasi and unlicensed bed and breakfast, which, by the way, fits the description of an illegal rooming house: (I removed their names and phones numbers from here)

$700-$900/mo, no pets, $350-$450 sec. dep. Heritage Inn is a former B&B mansion that has been beautifully preserved and maintained since 1904. Overlooking scenic Klutho Park, it has four different-sized rooms for our patients (2 large, 1 medium, 1 small), each with its own refrigerator, Internet and bathroom. Patients share the kitchen, laundry room, living room, and front and back porches. You may relax by soaking in the Jacuzzi spa or gliding down the gorgeous street on bicycles, both for patients. Semper Fi.
FYI: Patients can also stay here for their 3-day work ups as well.XXXX will come pick you up from the airport when you arrive, as well as make you breakfast each morning you're here for the 3-day work up.
1217 Boulevard St.
Jacksonville, FL 32206

They are advertising.  They are advertising rooms.  They are advertising that they were once a bed and breakfast (which they never did get a license for). They are advertising that you can stay as little as 3 days.  They are saying that they will make breakfast for their guests, which fit’s the description of a boarding house.

So, you need to check to see if they have a license as a rooming house or bed and breakfast, as well as a license for a commercial kitchen as they offer to cook for their guests.

Do I need to post the actual codes they are in violation of, FSU 813,  or do you think you can go find them yourself?

The truth be told, I really do not care if they rent rooms or not.  I do care that the same people who complain about our code enforcement checked and passed (under the accepted interpetation of the code of 2 months ago) rental houses have the audacity to be this blatantly hypocritical.

This is being A SPAR Council supporter at it’s best.  But anyone who was at the “rooming house issue” meeting with Louise and Company a while ago got to see that first hand.

[sheclown]

At the end of the day, who cares?  Point is (to those -- and you know who you are) quit throwing stones, quit being hypocrites. Quit tossing out RED ALERTS if you are less "legal" than we are and we might start having some peace and quite in this neighborhood.