Hadely CRU Hacked and Emails posted

Started by jandar, November 20, 2009, 03:03:01 PM

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BridgeTroll

#45
April 05, 2010, 12:29:44 PM
Exactly.  The hacked emails and subsequent investigation revealed "a culture of withholding information appears to have pervaded CRU [that] we consider unacceptable". Some information "may have been deleted", possibly in breach of the law."

Looks like this will have turned out to be a good thing.  Rather than Mr Jones preaching to us what we could not possibly understand AGW and should simply take his word for it... he and his colleagues will happily share their data with those who doubt their conclusions.

I am still having trouble seeing where someone lied about something though...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

#46
April 05, 2010, 12:43:46 PM
QuoteIt is intellectually dishonest at best.

So is claiming someone lied when they cannot show where they did... :)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

#47
April 05, 2010, 02:05:08 PM
Just read the entire thread again... if the lie is...

QuoteThe lie that climate-gate was proof that global warming was a hoax.

As Lunican said it was... I can find no mention of that.  I find mention of climate gate as evidence that data has been withheld and possibly altered... which is undeniably true as evidenced by the article Stephen posted and a seperate one I posted.

"the whole thing" was not a lie.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

jandar

#48
July 24, 2011, 08:12:47 PM
Stephen, the CRU admits to withholding data from scientists that have an alternate view of climate change/global warming. They even have tried to block their papers from getting into peer reviewed journals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7347658/Climategate-professor-admits-to-withholding-information.html
QuoteIn a grilling by MPs, Prof Jones admitted he had withheld data and sent some "pretty awful" emails.
Prof Jones admits to an inquiry that he withheld data.

All sides of science should be looked at, the debate is never settled. Once a scientist is sure he has the answer, he needs to attack it and tear it down to see if it stands up to the test. Not jump on a box and say the science is settled.

jandar

#49
July 25, 2011, 08:52:48 AM
You always have to attack the science Stephen, it makes it stronger.

Stephen Hawking attacked Einstein's Theory of Relativity constantly, and what do you know. Its not all correct.
Hell, even Einstein tried to debunk it.

But thats okay, even if Global Warming were manmade, my house is around 80 feet above sea level, so I won't have to move. And the warming will open up new growth areas in Canada, shifting the breadbasket a little north.

And what was debunked, the fact that Prof Jones stated to an inquiry, on public record, that he withheld data?
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