Crash Trash and Weekend Bash! Riverside, Friday

[mtraininjax]

No such thing as bad publicity!

[RiversideLoki]

[TPC]

So are all the owners now aware of the reviewers coming to check out their bar?

[Jennifer Browning]

As far as the owner's way of handling your whole bathroom trauma, i applaud her diligence in ensuring her patron's privacy, and frankly i would be quite upset to walk out of a stall and find someone taking pictures of the bathroom that i was in. 

Hannah,
      I'd like to know where the idea that I was taking pictures of people in the bathrooms came from.  Have you ever seen a picture of people in the bathrooms in these articles?  She was walking into the bathrooms, not the stall.  Perhaps you shouldn't assume so much.

Jennifer

[playnjville]

FROM HANNA ..As far as the owner's way of handling your whole bathroom trauma, i applaud her diligence in ensuring her patron's privacy, and frankly i would be quite upset to walk out of a stall and find someone taking pictures of the bathroom that i was in.

Hannah,
      I'd like to know where the idea that I was taking pictures of people in the bathrooms came from.  Have you ever seen a picture of people in the bathrooms in these articles?  She was walking into the bathrooms, not the stall.  Perhaps you shouldn't assume so much.

Jennifer

Jennifer.....
I'd say Jennifer that the idea came from you in your article!! (or do you not read the crap you print)  You yourself said a customer "Said with FEAR & OUTRAGE"....  "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?"   So if a customer had a serious problem with it while your doing it... why wouldn't the owner have a problem?? If she had to come to you upset about it then I'm sure there were problems that others complained to her as well.. Did you ask?
You handled the whole thing unprofessionally and aren't woman enough to admit it. Instead you try to make the owner look bad to cover your mess! Then jump on your readers for defending the right thing!?!?
So clearly the assumption was on your part that it's OK to go in a bar & start taking pictures in a bathroom without knowledge or permission of the Establishment. Or at least an employee there to reassure the customers there that it's OK.   Bottom line... Your commentary is unprofessional & rude. 

Stephendare

Whether Karissa is a writer on your staff or not, I feel it was unnecessary to "print" the bitch comment when she was clearly doing her job. You say this is for the consumers not the businesses....  that's great  Really! But how is calling an employee a Bitch for doing her job a help to me as a consumer?  How is bad mouthing the  "Fried Meat & Seafood" they serve,  Just because your a vegan, a help to me?
The club did get a great rating as it should have, but the rude & nasty (that you called funny??) commentary was totally unnecessary!!  How about Teaching your girl some professionalism.  This is a published article... not her personal diary!!   JUST MY OPINION AS A CONSUMER!

[mtraininjax]

Go get 'em Jennifer, don't take any crap from them!

Stephen - Agreed, I'd like to see you take the show on the road to the bars mentioned in the Times Union for having guns, namely the Silver FOXX on Beaver Street.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-11-02/story/jacksonville_bars_nightclubs_keep_an_eye_out_for_guns

[Sportmotor]

Go get 'em Jennifer, don't take any crap from them!

Stephen - Agreed, I'd like to see you take the show on the road to the bars mentioned in the Times Union for having guns, namely the Silver FOXX on Beaver Street.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-11-02/story/jacksonville_bars_nightclubs_keep_an_eye_out_for_guns

Been to the Silver Foxx(on a dare, I am a unthreating lookin white boy at first glance)
scared the hell outa me

[mtraininjax]

Been to the Silver Foxx(on a dare, I am a unthreating lookin white boy at first glance)
scared the hell outa me

Hence the article from the T-U. I would like to see the inside of Plush, but I am not sure how many MJ readers attend regular Plush events. Never been myself. Apparently I won't be going to incahoots to take pictures either.

[playnjville]

Hence the article from the T-U. I would like to see the inside of Plush, but I am not sure how many MJ readers attend regular Plush events. Never been myself. Apparently I won't be going to incahoots to take pictures either.[/quote


I guess you won't, considering most of the clubs in Riverside don't allow camera's.  Sad to say, but Not everyone is able to be out of the closet. One wrong picture posted online could cost them their job or their family relationships.  But outside of the drama asscoiated with the reviewer, you'd probably have a blast there if you ever did decide to check it out! It's a really fun place.   

[Sportmotor]

and as far as incahoots goes, I have been there MANY times and not to long ago, guess less then 3 weeks ago. Never impressed, actually its always dissapointing and the review was nicer then what I would have said about it.

[mtraininjax]

I'm not here to judge, so I won't.

[playnjville]

and as far as incahoots goes, I have been there MANY times and not to long ago, guess less then 3 weeks ago. Never impressed, actually its always dissapointing and the review was nicer then what I would have said about it.

Hmmmm...   You've been there MANY times.....  & your dissapointed...  yet you keep going back?? ... MANY TIMES    LMAO!!

But, I'm truly am sorry to hear that you didn't enjoy it. Not every place is for everyone. And,  Everyone is entittled to their opinion.    Most any given night it's one of the most packed bar's ("slam'd" every Fri & Sat as well)  out of all the Bar's in Riverside along with Kickback's (which is also an awesome place).      There are lots of bars out there. I'm sure you'll find many of them that make you happy!  ENJOY!

[Bewler]

Hence the article from the T-U. I would like to see the inside of Plush, but I am not sure how many MJ readers attend regular Plush events. Never been myself.

I have. Getting shot at plush would be what I consider a mercy killing. I’d rather be getting wheeled out on a stretcher than have to spend an evening at that god awful place. Bad music, lame crowd, armed drunks (apparently). I think I’d rather choose death.

[playnjville]

Wow Stephendare!!   You sure do like the sound of your own voice (in this case writing) don't you!! 
You say I'm a unreconstructed literalist because I disagree with the you & the professionalism of your writer?
WHATEVER ....   Calling me names because you can't handle criticism is pathetic!!
But that's OK, I've seen your writing/responses to others that have had critical responses to your other weekend bash reviews and you did the same to them!

And, you saying that your not sure how these reviews will help us as a consumer is kinda funny since wasn't your exact words a few sections up "The crash trash and weekend bash is a review article, written for consumers not businesses.  . So your writing it for us but no clue how it's supposed to help us...  HMMM OK? 

I've know Karissa for 13 years now, and I agree that calling her a Bitch in fun or in show is def part of the norm, but in this case it wasn't at the reviewer's expense (as you stated) , it was at her expense for doing her job. Twist it how you want, but the facts are obvious! 

You say the objective part comes in the ratings, but you of all people MR LITERARY MAN  should know that words can hurt much more than numbers. Especially when they are inaccurate and overdramatized.

I'm sure that you and Jennifer are both are really nice people ... AS AM I....   And,  It really wasn't my intention to turn this into this mess that it has become, but when I as a consumer see unprofessional & innaccurate  things written about a club that I, ALONG WITH NAMY OTHERS LOVE (which is why they are usually slammed), then  I felt the need a a COMSUMER to respond. 

Although I highly disagree with you, & the way you handle things,  I do wish you all well.

THE "RATING" THEY GOT WAS AWESOME - THANKS FOR AT LEAST THAT!!! 

THE CLUB IS AWESOME - THE LOTS ARE SAFE - THE MUSIC IS AWESOME- THE FOOD IS DELICIOUS

THE DRINKS ARE STRONG - THE CLUB IS PACKED & CLEARLY THE OWNER IS LOOKING OUT FOR US!

DEF MY KIND OF CLUB!!!!       

[whit8583]

Ok so I have two maybe three things that bother me about the “review” of incahoots…

The first major thing would have to be the 18 year old “cohort” that you have working for you. I was there that night and over heard the comment made by karrissa, I guess he’ll think twice before trying to get served under age again. Why the hell would you try and order 3 drinks when only two of you are of age???

All of you r lucky you weren’t thrown out for trying to get a minor served or is that part of your jobs to see if you can get away with it then award and extra bonus point???

Do any of you realize what exactly would have happen if for some reason you had managed to get him a drink? If any kind of law enforcement had witness him getting served or drinking underage not only would all of you had gone to jail but the club would be shut down and the owner and all the staff would have gone to jail as well and not to mention her losing the club and the entire staff losing their jobs… hardly seems worth it for comedic review. It’s a good thing incahoots has a staff that has zero tolerance for underage drinking…

The second thing is the bathroom ordeal…..
I understand it maybe a part of your job to take pictures of the bathrooms but to judge the adverse reactions to it seems a little pompous… if I had walked in to the bathroom anywhere and saw someone taking random photos dam right I would have done the same thing its not some “unwritten code” its just common sense and just plain weird!
I was also outside about to order food (which by the way IS amazing!!!) when I witnessed this so called “aggressive and forbidding” moment. They did not “chase you to the street” you were standing by the doors?? Come on! Really?? In my opinion I would have done the same thing. It’s within her rights as owner to question why anyone would want to be taking pictures of any thing to do with the establishment ….

p.s. there are 4 bars with 5 bartenders not 3…