southbound I95 exit to JTB

[dhouston]

Sorry if this has been discussed:
As I watched the workers  at the southbound I95 exit to JTB the other day, I wondered what they were fixing and  how the intersection was being improved.   I thought the intersection should have a cloverleaf exit on the southwest corner of the intersection.  Pleased with my thoughts, I imagined how my car would not have to wait at light before going east on JTB.  I thought about the daily rush-hour fender-benders on 95 when traffic gets backed up.  Then I saw the sweet little forest.  At home I checked google maps.
I guess there must be a reason why that part of Jacksonville is empty.  I assume DOT asked years ago.  Has the DOT asked recently?

http://maps.google.com/maps?client=opera&rls=en&q=jacksonville+fl&sourceid=opera&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Jacksonville,+FL&gl=us&ei=qNnHSv69NZHY8Aa84bThCA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1
A cloverleaf exit seems so obvious--surely sometime it was talked about over the last 15-20 years.
So who owns the big green space?  Was some one allowed to say no to DOT?
My paranoid little mind is racing wondering if the right person wouldn't profit enough from a highway exit.
please tell something.
DH

[dhouston]

Hi I am a newbie, be patient.
Ok, I searched and read the previous posts, metrojacksonville.  Everyone posted about traffic that day.
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2008-may-more-road-construction-for-the-southside

In the plan, the DOT is adding a cloverleaf for the 95 southbound  to JTB traffic. So I had a good idea, or someone else had the same thought.

However, the DOT plan has an separate and maybe unneccessary flyover to allow cars that have exited 95 to drive over JTB, without stopping.  Then the cars enter a cloverleaf to join east bound JTB.

Just move the exit south of JTB, add a cloverleaf, and be done with out an extra overpass.
DH

[Ocklawaha]

Hi I am a newbie, be patient.
Ok, I searched and read the previous posts, metrojacksonville.  Everyone posted about traffic that day.
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2008-may-more-road-construction-for-the-southside

In the plan, the DOT is adding a cloverleaf for the 95 southbound  to JTB traffic. So I had a good idea, or someone else had the same thought.

However, the DOT plan has an separate and maybe unneccessary flyover to allow cars that have exited 95 to drive over JTB, without stopping.  Then the cars enter a cloverleaf to join east bound JTB.

Just move the exit south of JTB, add a cloverleaf, and be done with out an extra overpass.
DH

First, WELCOME dhouston. I'm the resident transit monster, so I'll jump in with a why. If you go to the new JTB-9A interchange you'll note that it's NOT a cloverleaf either, nor is the Big I, or 295-95. While the design of a cloverleaf
has been around as long as freeways they are really unsafe.

Imagine for a minute, your on 95 Southbound at 60 mph, and you want to take the cloverleaf to the beach via JTB.
As you approach the place where 95 passes over the JTB on a bridge, you MUST quickly get in the right turn lane to exit. BUT YOU CAN'T because there is a solid line of cars coming up the cloverleaf, from the beaches, and heading south on JTB. The full merging distance of the on-ramp and the off-ramp is only the length of the bridge! It forces cars moving to the right to exit, must cross the path of cars moving to the left to merge onto the freeway. There are at least 4 places on a complete cloverleaf where these crossing patterns exist. The newer flyover or spiral designs are made so that nobody has to cross paths while merging in either direction.

For a few bucks more, you are almost insured 100% that in the life of that highway (not being a cloverleaf) you have saved many lives.

Frankly, Streetcars, Light Rail Transit, and Commuter Rail, are all much better options then ANY more realestate consuming interchanges. But you'll find those articles in our transit section, just under the MetroJacksonville.com banner, top of the home page, just click transit. Hope I didn't confuse you, it's rather hard to explain.

OCKLAWAHA

[tufsu1]

the project under construction right now is an interim fix...it will not do much other than alleviate some of the back-ups for a few years....the larger project, which there is no money for right now, is at least 6 years away

[Charles Hunter]

And, as dhouston (welcome aboard!) noted, it is to be a flyover to take southbound 95 traffic east on JTB.  Isn't that large, undeveloped tract the area Freedom Commerce Center wanted to develop, but was stopped due to the sensitive wetlands?

[reednavy]

Project website:

http://www.butler95.com/