Rapid Glacial Meltdown. Extreme Ice Survey shows an eminent danger to Florida.

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What influence does the magnetic field have on climate, what is the state of the magnetic field and will it reverse in 2012?
Check out all 12 parts of the interview. Forget mass transit if this guy is right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE7ELVDkmFk

Seems like I read somewhere that the effects the earth's mag field has on climate is primarily weather change, I may be wrong, but I seemed to have read or heard this.

Other effects would be material relative to electricity and the such.

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[reednavy]

I agree with you ReedNavy, no one knows; it could be 3030 before things really fall through the cracks.  But we have to face reality, our poles are melting and the speed at which they are melting has increased within the last five to ten years.

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The Poles are melting, but the above posted article shows that it all isn't melting, and some is actually expanding. I do believe that quite a bit of the global warming thing is politically motivated in nature and is being blown well out of proportion.

While the overall global temperature has increased, only some is due to humans, the other is a natural cycle . However, disregarding other facts and such make people look rather close-minded, and I'm not going to say names. We have no clue when the shit will hit the fan, but I honestly believe it isn't going to be within the next 10 years.

I also like how a certain person tries to say my views are politcally based, when, in all honesty, I could care less about politics. So because we don't agree with that person's views, I'm wrong. Please, you need to be more open to other's views in order to make sound judgement.

Also, this is photographic evidence from only one hemisphere. Why doesn't this person have cameras set up in Antarctica, recording ice is growing?

[Sigma]

You should definitely consider your own sources then.  As the article I referenced cites scientific facts as well - they just don't agree with your world view.  So your attempts to discredit the article is typical, but based on scientific findings.  I did not discredit your video, instead, consider it part of the big picture.  At some point, you should try to do the same.

My point though, if you can read before you start typing, is that we shouldn't buy into doom and gloom.  There is still much research and analysis to be done.

The poles are both melting and growing in different regions of the world.  They are changing.  They always have and always will.  TO attempt to equate one small region to the entire globe is not scientifically sound - but has its place and should be considered with all information.

We should however take better care of our environment.  

[reednavy]

While it is happening, making such a bold call of 2011 as the PNR and 2019 as when we're just plain swimming is extremely risky. In the scientific community, making such a bold call and then if it doesn't happen, you're then grilled, crucified and then noone will ever listen again. That is the way the science community is and always has been.

It has just been said for years since climate change became a hot topic, the PNR is 1999, 2011, 2050, etc. We have absolutely no solid way of knowing when that happens, nature just doesn't give stuff up easily, and never has.

Al Gore was a such a dumbass to even try to say Katrina was the result of global warming, so do not even get me started on that.

[braeburn]

We have been freezing and thawing for a very long time. I don't buy it.

The ice that's frozen is displacing the space in the water. When it melts it does not take up more space.

When ice cubes melt in your glass of tea or water, it doesn't cause the liquid levels to rise to the point of overflowing, out of the glass itself. In fact, water expands when it is frozen, therefore taking up more space than when it is liquid.

[Sigma]

ahh, can't stay on topic and argue the merits of your argument.  I had a feeling the straw man would show up soon.  

have a good day gentlemen! time to get in some golf!

[reednavy]

See, another one of those my view is right, and your's is wrong by stephen.

You simply refuse to listen to anyone else that has an opposing view that you disagree with.

It showed yesterday by going from topic at hand, to insurance, to hurricanes, then back, without addressing what I brought to the table. Saying you read fast, really, so you can read 4 pages in under 2 minuted, I hardly believe that for a second.

Like I've been saying though, we don't know when the PNR will be, but saying it'll be 2011 is going out on a very flimsy limb.

[buckethead]

Magnetic field? Nothing? Irrelevent?

Let's explore all contributing factors and possible outcomes/solutions.

[Sigma]

So physics is different in a glass of water than anywhere else? umm ok.

that wasnt supposed to be melting for another hundred years.

Who says?  the same science that can't predict how many hurricanes we'll have this year?  Stephen, we all agree that you are divine and enlightened, but we did not know you and God actually communicated about what would happen in one hundred years.  

buckethead- I concur 100%

til tomorrow

[reednavy]

reednavy.  Group dynamics or interpersonal comments arent going to change the basic science.

The video is um, kindof the proof that what you are saying is outdated information.

I had meant to ask you how your antarctic research facility was going, though, thanks for reminding me.

How is your research?  Im very curious on your findings about the PNR.

I can also ask that, where is your OWN research, not this bottlefed stuff from youtube.

I want to know, at what point in that video does is automatically outdate the information I provided. You tell me, don't tell me to watch the video, you tell me.

[reednavy]

Oh hell, not the 2012 crock of shit.

[reednavy]

lol, my sentiments exactly, reed.

I'm done with this arguement of frozen liquid. We'll agree to disagree.

However, if one more person says it is all over on 12/21/2012, I'm socking them in the face. It has gotten past annoying.

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We have been freezing and thawing for a very long time. I don't buy it.

The ice that's frozen is displacing the space in the water. When it melts it does not take up more space.

When ice cubes melt in your glass of tea or water, it doesn't cause the liquid levels to rise to the point of overflowing, out of the glass itself. In fact, water expands when it is frozen, therefore taking up more space than when it is liquid.

Good point Braeburn, but what about the fact (or theory?) of melting fresh water ice (runoff from melting glaciers, icebergs, etc. in the Arctic and Antarctic) into salt water seas? I have read, and heard that this would cause a rise in ocean levels in addition to wreaking havoc with the Gulfstream and causing severe weather changes.

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I'll

lol, my sentiments exactly, reed.

I'm done with this arguement of frozen liquid. We'll agree to disagree.

However, if one more person says it is all over on 12/21/2012, I'm socking them in the face. It has gotten past annoying.

I'll never say that, and don't think anyone in this forum has said that, but we all know that is purely opinion, speculation, and possibly even theory; no one knows.

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[reednavy]

The Mayan Calendar isn't the only one that has ended with no results. Also, several other religious calendars end way off in the future, I think the Jewish one ends in 2046 or something.