Rapid Glacial Meltdown. Extreme Ice Survey shows an eminent danger to Florida.

[stephendare]

http://www.youtube.com/v/DjeIpjhAqsM

[reednavy]

Ok, another reason to ditch the f*cked up state.

[heights unknown]

Wow. If people don't like Florida in the first place, why do they move here? The "f*cked up state?  Because the glaciers are melting and Florida has a low topography, we're f*cked up?  Enjoy the f*cked up state while you can before returning to the Northlands where the winters will get colder and colder because of the out of whack weather attributed to global warming.  I could say more but I won't.  A lot of people moving back to Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, etc.  Maybe that's a good thing. Enjoy your day "reednavy."

[NotNow]

Thanks heights.  I love our little corner of heaven.  Big blue ocean, beautiful swamps and lowlands, good hunting, fishing, diving, and boating.  The Jags, Suns, and Gators/Ospreys/Dolphins to watch.  Even with our problems, this is a great big/small city/town!

[Ocklawaha]

Thanks heights.  I love our little corner of heaven.  Big blue ocean, beautiful swamps and lowlands, good hunting, fishing, diving, and boating.  The Jags, Suns, and Gators/Ospreys/Dolphins to watch.  Even with our problems, this is a great big/small city/town!

Hey NotNow, I think you have hit on the exact way I think we should be marketing ourselves. Indeed we are the greatest, biggest, small town in America! I can be stuck in endless traffic on I-95 toward St. Augustine, then in a matter of 10 minutes, I can be in my canoe and lost on 6 mile creek.
Try that in New York or Chicago or Denver or Los Angeles...

OCKLAWAHA

[Ocklawaha]

Kind of makes your girl friends can of hair spray kind of insignificant doesn't it?

Stephen, as for the Melt Down, I don't believe we are the ones who are causing it. Do I believe there is such a thing as "global warming," yeah, something weird is going on... Medellin and Bogota were actually warm the other day! Do I think we promote it or help cause it? Well, I don't think we HELP it any. The whole reason behind my own theory is when the volcano erupted in the Andes, then off Philippines, the vulcanologist said in a single eruption the volcano's produce more powerful green house gases and do more damage then the entire history of mankind. So?? Ho Hum? I'll use biodegradable toilet paper tonight.

OCKLAWAHA

[NotNow]

Thanks heights.  I love our little corner of heaven.  Big blue ocean, beautiful swamps and lowlands, good hunting, fishing, diving, and boating.  The Jags, Suns, and Gators/Ospreys/Dolphins to watch.  Even with our problems, this is a great big/small city/town!

Hey NotNow, I think you have hit on the exact way I think we should be marketing ourselves. Indeed we are the greatest, biggest, small town in America! I can be stuck in endless traffic on I-95 toward St. Augustine, then in a matter of 10 minutes, I can be in my canoe and lost on 6 mile creek.
Try that in New York or Chicago or Denver or Los Angeles...

OCKLAWAHA

That is EXACTLY right Ock.  It is rare to be able to hit the trail to nowhere, or hop on your boat and enjoy a quiet marina sunset and a frosty beverage within minutes of fighting the rat race.

[reednavy]

Wow. If people don't like Florida in the first place, why do they move here? The "f*cked up state?  Because the glaciers are melting and Florida has a low topography, we're f*cked up?  Enjoy the f*cked up state while you can before returning to the Northlands where the winters will get colder and colder because of the out of whack weather attributed to global warming.  I could say more but I won't.  A lot of people moving back to Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, etc.  Maybe that's a good thing. Enjoy your day "reednavy."

Excuse yourself, it was sarcasm.

All this negative talk about this state is really starting to get on my nerves and was speaking to the nay-sayers of Florida. We may not be the most perfect state, and while most of the state is really being hit hard by the recession, we in NE FL are doing relatively well and enjoy our little piece of happiness. We have the lowest chances of hurricane landfalls of any coastal location in the entire country, which just makes us that more special. We're a blend of north and south, old and new, and make it work.

So, this eminent danger talk is a bunch of bullshyt anyways and will take a lot longer than what all these Henny Pennies are saying.

Btw heights, I didn't choose to live here originally, I was stationed here and THEN decided to stay put after leaving the service,  instead of returning to Nashville.

One last thing, i like how you put my screen name in quotations, how cute. Enjoy yourself in Sarasota or whatever place you call home in West Central FL.

[DavidWilliams]

Damn, I was just watching some football and talking to some folks about how nice of a summer it has been. Not oppressively hot..humid yes...but that is Florida. But to read the posts...earth ends either this week of next? 

[NotNow]

I thought we had till 2012!

[reednavy]

Two years is the current PNR.  Point of No Return.

After that, depending on certain feedback processes, we could be flooded and inundated all the way to regency by 2019

Gotta love this hyping over rapid meltdown.

[reednavy]

Ok, that showed only one part of a much larger science called Global Warming. That really showed me nothing more than ice melting and need to bring more things to the table otuside of the beliefes of a photographer. I heard no such statement of a giant methane release.

Do I believe in global warming, yes.
Do I believe it is all human caused, no.
Do I believe this sudden rise in sea level will happen in 10 years, hell no.

Lastly, nice to see he said other things are not important to mention or propoganda. What makes people think this guy isn't spreading it and looking for money to support his photography project.

[reednavy]

um.  the photographic evidence? 

Other than that, what would you like as proof the ice is melting?

The greenland calving face was the most troubling.

Thats the one that if it melts, its a 20 ft sea level rise.

I didn't say proof of ice melt, I said global warming, big difference.

For every person that thinks it'll all melt by 2019, there is likely an equal amount thinking Earth will fight back and take us back to the Ice Age by that time.

I want more reason than ice cores and tree rings.

We haven't been here long enough to understand what's going to happen in ten years, hell, we're lucky with 2 weeks right now. I take all computer model analysis with a grain of salt, some require a handful, and climate change is a handful.

Also, citing Wikipedia as a reference does not back much up, as anyone can put anything into that site's articles.

[reednavy]

Well, someone convinced the Insurance Companies.

No, you can thank the hurricane seasons of 2004 and 2005 for that.

[reednavy]

Hmm, if my past as ameteorologist serves me correct, only 3 of the signifcant hurricanes (Ivan, Katrina, and Rita) that made landfall those 2 years made their name known due to storm surge damage. All the others (Charley, Frances Jeanne, and Wilma) did their damage with wind. Dennis doesn't count as it is hard to tell what he truly would've done had Ivan not already done most of the damage in the same area in 2004.

Also, before you even treck down this path, height of surge at landfall is not always indicative of landfall wind strength.

Insurance companies were alrady dropping people prior to the 2005 season and after that year, they decided it was too costly to keep insuring areas that are regularly hit by hurricanes. Whether it be by wind or water, they were doing it anyways.