Help!!

[stjr]

well it would be libel.

And accusing someone of breaking the law, or being a lawbreaker would be libel.  Libel suits are hard to win, but expensive to fight.

Stephen, many people get accused crimes they aren't convicted of but are not getting sued.  I'm no lawyer, but it seems that the standard for libel is probably subject to more specific circumstances and would take into account context and intent thus creating the high bar you refer to for winning.

Also, public figures usually have an even harder time winning.  Ms. Pittman might be, in some circles, considered a public figure, at least with regard to this event.

[fsu813]

strj,

Considering she was in a recent issue of 904 Magazine with a full page spread, yes, she's a very public figure.

[stjr]

I should have been clearer probably.  Since I didn't think libel had occurred, I didnt realize my comment would be taken so.

No qualms with your response.  I was just trying to refine it a little bit.

Point is Jay Leno can say things on his entertainment shows that Brian Williams, on the same network, can't say on his show, the Nightly News.

[nvrenuf]

Any chance of getting back to the topic of another group home trying to be rammed down Springfield's overflowing throat?

[77danj7]

have I ever said that reading these forums are one of the highlights of my day at work!!!

[nvrenuf]

Yes, isn't it? It is for a particular # of unrelated individuals. Doesn't that constitute a group? And I'm not that old Stephen and I carry a Glock not an axe.

[Dog Walker]

Eye Bleach!  Eye bleach!  You'd have to real liquored up to want to kiss anyone of those!  Stephen, where did you find those pictures?

[downtownparks]

Its too bad we dont have any lawyers posting on this thread to clear things up for us.

That said, Illegal, or not, I dont want another facility in the neighborhood. We simply have too many as it is.

[macbeth25]

Yes, isn't it? It is for a particular # of unrelated individuals. Doesn't that constitute a group? And I'm not that old Stephen and I carry a Glock not an axe.

I hope you're licensed to carry a concealed weapon and properly trained.  I'm not too sure I would want you around me, though.

[Karl_Pilkington]

Its too bad we dont have any lawyers posting on this thread to clear things up for us.

That said, Illegal, or not, I dont want another facility in the neighborhood. We simply have too many as it is.

eff lawyers, wtf do they know anyway!

I'm actually finding this very amusing at the moment.  OMG say it ain't so another do-gooder is proposing another do-gooder dumping ground so they can feed off the government nipple (AGAIN)!  I mean at this point its almost laughable.  At least I will know that if this goes through then I can forsee the transformation of my own property in the future, from that of single family dwelling to "group" home.  If this trend continues in SPR The property values will continue to fall and eventually we'll all be paying the city the pittance in property taxes that it clearly seems to want.  My home once only paid 800 dollars a year to this city, wouldn't mind a bit if this happened again!

[nvrenuf]

Yes, isn't it? It is for a particular # of unrelated individuals. Doesn't that constitute a group? And I'm not that old Stephen and I carry a Glock not an axe.

I hope you're licensed to carry a concealed weapon and properly trained.  I'm not too sure I would want you around me, though.

Yes on both counts. Why have you or would you do something that would cause me to feel the need to use it?

[macbeth25]

It is far less likely that someone who doesn't carry a weapon will shoot me.  You might not have a reason to use it against me but what if you feel you have to use it around me.  I would be just as dead.  There is no guarantee that when you're trying to defend yourself or trying to stop someone else that you won't miss or your bullet will not pass through your target or through a wall and hit me or someone else.  Frankly, people carrying weapons frighten me. 

[nvrenuf]

Macbeth your argument isn't entirely logical but we are getting off track AGAIN. Does anyone know the result of the HPC meeting mentioned in the original post? I'll try to find what I can but my HPC contact is often incommunicado.

[AlexS]

All I could find from the July 22 HPC meeting was a request for a Fire Alarm System.

4.   COA-09-388   1541 Boulevard   Springfield
   Applicant:   Ju’Coby  Pittman      Request: Fire Alarm System
   Owner:   same      
   Recommendation:   Approve with Conditions      
   Commission Action:         

[fsu813]

why would someone need approval for a fire alarm?