LEGALIZE MARIJUANA AND PROSTITUTION

Started by macbeth25, July 21, 2009, 09:59:14 AM

Sportmotor

legal drugs: caffeine & alcohol
both in effects much more damaging to the body then weed.

the thing that will keep weed from being legal is they dont have a way like in alcohol to tell how much is in your system. Plus weed smoke can get others high around you(cant have that)

I dont have a problem with weed but like with alcohol I dont think alot of people would use it properly and would missuse and abuse it.
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gmpalmer

again, "more damaging to the body than weed" is simply irresponsible.  how about "as damaging to the body" -- marijuana is not some sort of magic drug with no side effects -- and caging it in "less dangerous than tobacco" terms doesn't help that.

Ocklawaha

You are correct, it IS a DRUG plain and simple... It does not have to be smoked but how could you prevent that unless it came blended into the brownie mix right out of the box. It makes a really nice cup of tea, in fact the tea tastes like the air smells in Oklahoma, "When the wind comes right behind the rain..." That super sweet smell over the endless miles of wheat grass has a very distinct flavor. Most of the anti-drug CRAP that has been released over the years is so mixed with outright lies, as to make the arguments worthless.

OCKLAWAHA

NotNow

Schwaz, how are prostitutes "victims" of police?
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macbeth25

I imagine they could be, especially if an officer threatened to arrest one unless she did what he wanted. 
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A-Finnius

If states start legalizing marijuana, wouldnt that cause a clash between federal laws and state laws? 

I remember a few years ago reading about Federal D.E.A. agents shutting down "legal" medicinal marijuana shops in California. 

urbanlibertarian

To me it's not about what harm may come from a substance or activity.  It's about respecting the ability of our fellow adults to decide for themselves what substances they ingest and what activities they engage in with other adults without violence, coercion or fraud and letting them bear the responsibility for the consequences.
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macbeth25

I think the people who make the laws need to be better educated regarding their constituents' wishes.  If we don't like what they do, we can vote them out of office.  If enough of us realized that and found legislators who more closely reflected our wishes, perhaps many of the problems discussed in metrojacksonville might be solved.
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Ernest Street

#38
I would love to know how many Marijuana haters out there are on a sedative or "Mild" anxiety drug...every time I rail against Pills ...nobody responds.
Maybe we should have a poll to see how many honest people admit to being on SOMA.  I know for a fact several friends that were legally prescribed Xanax or something Milder were Wigging out when they couldn't take their "Drug"
How LEGAL is that?  wake up people.. Pharma-monopolies are a bigger business than OIL!. They want you sedated and stupid. Marijuana "Stupidity" is something the non smokers joke about, but if you have a reasonable IQ, and can think for yourselves you don't have the same effects an Idiot has.Any normal person that has had dental work gets prescribed a Pain pill and either notices the Marshmello brain effect and hates it or likes it. You are who you are!

Sportmotor

to be honest, as I have studied politics and hope to become apart of it one day to MAKE a differnce

Marijuana not being legalized atleast comes down to just that, politics.
Older generations in power, middle aged, and attempting up and coming age stay washed with "this is bad" and "god doesnt want you to do this" and "the right way is this way"

I look at it like overseas in the countrys we are attempting to help
You cant change the old they are set in there ways, inform and educate the youth and it will change eventually.

There are more babyboomers and older politicians in power with more sway that say NO. Once they are gone there is a chance but it will still take a while before I see a real chance for it to be legalized or have a fair running at it.

Then again Change is bad according to most, human nature is if it is differnt or something not used to, its bad. I dont really see it being legalized anytime soon.
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Dog Walker

Back in the '60's we were all convinced that when our generation grew up to be the judges and politicians, pot would be legalized.  We didn't know the power of hypocrisy.
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macbeth25

Quote from: Sportmotor on July 22, 2009, 04:36:45 PM
legal drugs: caffeine & alcohol
the thing that will keep weed from being legal is they dont have a way like in alcohol to tell how much is in your system. Plus weed smoke can get others high around you(cant have that)
Are you sure about that?  They might not be able to test for â€" I guess the term would be quantity, but I know that marijuana can be detected in either urine or blood, now.  Let me tell you a true story -- perhaps you'll get a laugh:
I was assigned to the Base Information Office on Nakhon Phanom RTAFB ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakhon_Phanom_Royal_Thai_Navy_Base ) and as part of my duties I helped set up a briefing for newcomers every so often. 
The Office of Special Investigations (OSI) agent did part of the briefing and this is what he would usually say:
“All of us know that some of you smoke pot and you figure you’re safe because we have no way to test for it (remember this was about 1970 or so) right now.  What you don’t realize is that some of the dealers here are not honest. 
“They lace their marijuana with red rock heroin â€" and that will show up. 
“I have a test kit in my office so if you want to know if your pot has been laced or not, just bring it down and we’ll check it for you.”
Then he usually just stopped talking and looked over at me.  You know what a “pregnant silence” is, I’m sure.  It usually took a minute or so before someone would start laughing.
What some didn’t realize was that he was telling the truth.  Dealers did lace their marijuana and sometimes the results were pretty serious.
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Shwaz

Quote from: NotNow on July 22, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
Schwaz, how are prostitutes "victims" of police?

I'm not saying it's common place but I'm sure many prostitutes have been beaten raped an/ or robbed by police through out history.
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Dog Walker

Quote from: Shwaz on July 23, 2009, 03:05:48 PM
Quote from: NotNow on July 22, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
Schwaz, how are prostitutes "victims" of police?

I'm not saying it's common place but I'm sure many prostitutes have been beaten raped an/ or robbed by police through out history.

Not in Nevada and Rhode Island where it is legal.
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NotNow

Quote from: macbeth25 on July 22, 2009, 10:09:19 PM
I imagine they could be, especially if an officer threatened to arrest one unless she did what he wanted. 

This says more about your own bias than it does about any realistic "problem". 
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