Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan: "Iraq War and Greed caused the Financial Collapse."

Started by stephendare, April 20, 2009, 05:34:36 PM

stephendare

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/20/dimon-iraq-war-greed-cont_n_189149.html
QuoteJPMorgan Chairman and CEO Jamie Dimon, in a letter to shareholders, touched on a theme that critics of the Iraq war were highlighting more than a year ago: That spending on the war was damaging to the economy.

Dimon cited "an expensive war in Iraq" as one of the possible triggers of the economic collapse. Spending on the war ballooned the deficit and crowded out investment in domestic priorities. Meanwhile, the trade deficit soared.

"I suspect when analysts and economists study the fundamental causes of this crisis, they will point to the enormous U.S. trade deficit as one of the main underlying culprits. Over an eight-year period, the United Sates ran a trade deficit of $3 trillion. This means that Americans bought $3 trillion more than they sold overseas. Dollars were used to pay for the goods. Foreign countries took these dollars and purchased, for the most part, U.S. Treasuries and mortgage-backed securities. It also is likely that this process kept U.S. interest rates very low, even beyond Federal Reserve policy, for an extended period of time."

Those depressed interest rates, in turn, pushed air into the housing bubble until it popped.

Dimon also cites the 2008 energy crisis as a shock to the economy that played a part in bringing it down. The energy crisis may still have occurred without the instability in the Middle East caused by the U.S. invasion, but with Iraq's oil supply knocked off-line for years, it didn't help.

Dimon also places some of the blame for the crisis on greed for ever-higher profits, which he refers to as "irrational pressure...to show increasingly better returns." The system he's referring to -- which pressures companies to steadily increase returns due to the cost of capital -- is called capitalism.

"Many other factors may have added to this storm -- an expensive war in Iraq, short-selling, high energy prices, and irrational pressure on corporations, money managers and hedge funds to show increasingly better returns," offered Dimon.

"The modern financial world has had its first major financial crisis. So far, many major actors are gone: many of the mortgage brokers, numerous hedge funds, Wachovia, WaMu, Bear Stearns, Lehman and many others. Some of the survivors are struggling, particularly as we face a truly global, massive recession -- and it still is not over," he wrote.

Read his analysis in his letter to shareholders (PDF). If you find anything else noteworthy, let me know at ryan@huffingtonpost.com.

BridgeTroll

While the headline is perfect for huffpo Dimon goes on to list numerous other factors that were culprits.  I hope we are not going to try and outlaw greed.  It has been tried.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

QuoteShe emphasized that businessmen at their best will first and foremost love their work and the challenge of creating products and services that earn them profits. If that’s greed, it’s to be praised! Rand also singled out for condemnation businessmen who seek money by any means, including fraud, or government handouts and special favors. If that’s greed, it’s to be damned!"
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

QuoteNone of the alleged profits were driven by production or enterprise.

Here I differ... When you use the word "none" in the above sentence it maligns the entire system and simply is not true.  You decry speculation yet that is what creates wealth.  It is investment... it is taking a chance and profiting enormously when correct.

Quote"While new laws might be needed to punish fraud, new regulations would only make matters worse. The recent scandals show that a free market and a free society must be based on a sound and ethical infrastructure. Adopting the morality of capitalism will help prevent both corporate and government scandals in the future," says Hudgins.

Interesting... :)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

jaxnative

QuoteDimon cited "an expensive war in Iraq" as one of the possible triggers of the economic collapse. Spending on the war ballooned the deficit and crowded out investment in domestic priorities.

This is a favorite fantasy of many to veer blame off course.  This US spent less than 1% of GDP per year on the Iraq War while in WW11 it was in the area of 30 - 34%.  Now, using some to the logic I've heard expressed on this site about the positive effects of government spending to improve the economy during and after WW11, maybe we just didn't have enough spending in Iraq!!

Sigma

Quote from: stephendare on April 21, 2009, 10:34:37 AM
If only the money had come back to the US, jaxnative.  If only.

But it didnt did it?  Halliburton moved to Dubai to escape taxation.

There are a lot of companies who have moved to avoid high taxation.  That's why we should lower the tax rate on corporations (or eliminate it).  The economy would see companies re-locating here. Economy fixed. 
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