Starbucks at 11East is given closing date

[tufsu1]

no Stephen...as you have noted in the past, the 11E Starbucks was doing just fine and was actually quite busy at times.

The location closed because Starbucks closed 500+ outlets around the country....all of which were opened within the last few years...and most of which were in suburban locations with free parking....one local example is the location at Philips/Baymeadows

The Landing Starbucks (less than 3 blocks away) seems to be doing just fine.

Next argument!

[Lunican]

The Landing Starbucks (less than 3 blocks away) seems to be doing just fine.

Next argument!

Update: 11E location still empty. Landing Starbucks also closing.

[tufsu1]

I'm sure the Landing store is closing because of a lack of customers...which is surely caused by downtown parking policies

[tufsu1]

oddly enough, every time I'm down at the Landing, I see at least 2 people in Starbucks....they never seemed to be hurting for business.

perhaps, as noted by someone else in another thread, it was really a lease price issue....you know, like the Panera in San Marco....guess they were struggling w/ lack of customers & parking too?

[KuroiKetsunoHana]

i believe starbucks has gotten to the point where they consider two customers at all times negligible.

[Bativac]

oddly enough, every time I'm down at the Landing, I see at least 2 people in Starbucks....they never seemed to be hurting for business.

perhaps, as noted by someone else in another thread, it was really a lease price issue....you know, like the Panera in San Marco....guess they were struggling w/ lack of customers & parking too?

I usually see two customers in there, too, probably spending a whopping six dollars. So if they can grab six dollars an hour for the 10 hours (I think) that they're open... that's $60 a day!!! I'll be generous and call it $100/day. Times 30 days a month. A solid $3000 a month in business. Less utilities, employee pay, rent, coffee supplies, etc etc...

Maybe Starbucks was just tired of hemorrhaging money. I don't know if they release sales figures anymore but I know from what I've read that in the early 2000s, averag annual revenue for a Starbucks was between $700k and $1m. I do not see the Jacksonville Landing store ever making that kind of money.

[Lunican]

Two whole customers at the same time??   

[danem]

While traveling, whenever I've tried to go to a Starbucks in downtown San Francisco in the morning, the line is out the door and into the sidewalk. And there, Starbucks are everywhere. I think this is what Starbucks considers "busy".

[Bativac]

While traveling, whenever I've tried to go to a Starbucks in downtown San Francisco in the morning, the line is out the door and into the sidewalk. And there, Starbucks are everywhere. I think this is what Starbucks considers "busy".

Yeah - see the Starbucks at the Town Center for example. Always a line, always a crowd. The one in San Marco seems to stay fairly busy. Not sure about the one still open in Atlantic Beach.

I'm kind of surprised the one in the Landing stayed open as long as it did.

[simms3]

I personally think it's completely sad that the one Starbucks in a downtown of a major city is closing because it can't do any business.

Some people have said that the parking is an issue.  It's a friggin walk up across from like 5 large office buildings!!

Some people have said that the construction on Laura caused it to close.  It's a friggin walk up across from like 5 major office buildings and the construction is now donw!!

Some people have had the idea to tear down the Landing and build a parking garage on its site.  I will not even comment to that.

Anyway, 50,000 workers and 3,000 residents nearby cannot support one Starbucks?  We're talking a company that literally does not even need to advertise (which is why it does not advertise).  Sure Starbucks opened too many locations all around years ago and has had to downsize, but our downtown should easily support 2 Starbucks!

I tell you, Jacksonville really is poor town.  POOR town.  Independents are more expensive than Starbucks, though, so where the hell does everyone get coffee??  There's an independent upscale coffee shop in my office building that's like 2-3x as expensive as Starbucks.

Reading the FTU comments on this about how it closed because of lack of parking really made me think about the intelligence level going on down there.  Aside from the unfortunate strip center locations where Starbucks still tries desperately to make the store open up with outdoor seating and the like, Starbucks prefers urban walk-up locations.  Duh (hits head).

I mean, really, there are 4 Starbucks within walking distance of me (a few blocks or less) in addition to local coffee shops like Octane (which also serves wine/liquors at night), and all are open til at least Midnight and all are crowded at every hour they are open.  Starbucks is like one of those magical places where high-level business talk/decisions are made, students are doing homework, and people of every age, ethnicity, and religion convene.  I guess Jacksonville is not even ready for one of these kinds of stores.

[tufsu1]

Two whole customers at the same time??   

feel free to twist my words...

I said I've never seen less than 2 people in there...that includes the middle of the day as well as at 8 or 9pm...while there today (at 4pm) there were easily 10 other people in the shop...anmd remember, that Starbucks is fairly small.

[Lunican]

Ok, I guess they can stay open afterall.

[buckethead]

Let me get this straight: Starbucks is making a fine profit, has plenty of customers, and is closing?