Lampru: Here Today, Gone Tomorrow

Started by Metro Jacksonville, April 18, 2007, 08:00:00 AM

Metro Jacksonville

Lampru: Here Today, Gone Tomorrow


Another historically significant Jacksonville building has been deemed unsafe by the City of Jacksonville's Property Safety Department and is being torn down. City engineers deemed the property, located at 8th and Boulevard in Springfield, a hazard to public safety because of the years of neglect that it has suffered as a result of its owner and the 'investment' decision of Springfield developer, Michael Trautman. The land remains vacant as of June 2014..
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dj

This makes me sick to even look at.  Is any structure ever really totally protected?

Joey Marchy

This makes me so sad. I'm such a sap.

Michael Trautmann

I owned this building. It was badly fire damged and water damaged when I got control from the previous owners who had seriously neglected the property. We tried desperately to come up with a viable plan to save the structure.I do believe we could have saved the fascade but the rest was unsound. We finally decided the economics were not going to work.  :(  I hate to see this building go - it breaks my heart !

RG

The fact is the building could have been saved by renovating it incrementally.  I would have first gotten the left front 2 apartments up and running, then the right 4 and lastly the portion in the rear would have been rebuilt.  It could have been done, assuming the City would have allowed it to be permitted in this way.  IMO the previous owners lacked foresight and imagination and should have never bought the place if they couldnt take on a project of its size.  Now, thanks to them and others, it belongs only to memory.   :(

RG

BTW, the best use for this property was rental residential.  Condos here would not have worked at this time at least.

Lunican

Lampru Apartments torn down April 2007.

iloveionia

The article mentions "the city's lack of code enforcement has enabled owners to allow them to fall down without penalty. . . . ."
Funny how we see things different now.
Knowing WHAT we know NOW. 
Lampru never had a chance.  Many of our homes did not.  Those on the formal track STILL do not.  We lost Patterson from the formal track over the summer.   
Lampru was one of 26 (or more) homes demolished in 2007. 
It's disgusting.

Notice how it is quite now.  The calm before the storm?  A realization of "screwing up?"  Not sure which.  Sometimes I fear code lays in wait, ready to pounce.  Sometimes I fear the evil that lies within folks will prevent preservation efforts of those who understand and appreciate.  But fear will not keep me or like minded folks away.  No way.  How's it go?  . . . . .never underestimate a group of passionate, like-minded citizens will change the world, in fact it is the only thing that every has. . . . . . . .(credit to Margaret Mead.)

Save the houses.  Save the houses.  Save the houses.


strider

Quote from: iloveionia on September 18, 2011, 01:40:45 AM
The article mentions "the city's lack of code enforcement has enabled owners to allow them to fall down without penalty. . . . ."
Funny how we see things different now.
Knowing WHAT we know NOW. 
Lampru never had a chance.  Many of our homes did not.  Those on the formal track STILL do not.  We lost Patterson from the formal track over the summer.   
Lampru was one of 26 (or more) homes demolished in 2007. 
It's disgusting.

Notice how it is quite now.  The calm before the storm?  A realization of "screwing up?"  Not sure which.  Sometimes I fear code lays in wait, ready to pounce.  Sometimes I fear the evil that lies within folks will prevent preservation efforts of those who understand and appreciate.  But fear will not keep me or like minded folks away.  No way.  How's it go?  . . . . .never underestimate a group of passionate, like-minded citizens will change the world, in fact it is the only thing that every has. . . . . . . .(credit to Margaret Mead.)

Save the houses.  Save the houses.  Save the houses.

Yes, and to add to that:

Help not hinder, help not hinder, help not hinder
"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know. Everybody you see. Everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake and they live in a state of constant total amazement." Patrica, Joe VS the Volcano.

Springfielder

It's absolutely shameful how this city has allowed so many historic buildings and homes to be taken down. They demo at an alarming rate, and have no regard for our historical integrity. That's what Jacksonville remains a nothing, backwards town and doesn't even come close to being all that it can and should be. The administration needs to wake up and realize the significance of preserving historical structures...all major cities have them and work hard to save them, except cowford!


ChriswUfGator

Quote from: Michael Trautmann on April 19, 2007, 09:29:27 PM
I owned this building. It was badly fire damged and water damaged when I got control from the previous owners who had seriously neglected the property. We tried desperately to come up with a viable plan to save the structure.I do believe we could have saved the fascade but the rest was unsound. We finally decided the economics were not going to work.  :(  I hate to see this building go - it breaks my heart !

Then why the hell did you buy it?


Springfielder

Quote from: ChriswUfGator
Quote from: Michael TrautmannI owned this building. It was badly fire damged and water damaged when I got control from the previous owners who had seriously neglected the property. We tried desperately to come up with a viable plan to save the structure.I do believe we could have saved the fascade but the rest was unsound. We finally decided the economics were not going to work.  :(  I hate to see this building go - it breaks my heart !
Then why the hell did you buy it?
+1000 

that's part of what's wrong with this system, economic hardship demolition=total bullshit. If the facade could've been saved, then the inside could've been repaired


sheclown

Quote from: Springfielder on September 18, 2011, 12:06:57 PM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator
Quote from: Michael TrautmannI owned this building. It was badly fire damged and water damaged when I got control from the previous owners who had seriously neglected the property. We tried desperately to come up with a viable plan to save the structure.I do believe we could have saved the fascade but the rest was unsound. We finally decided the economics were not going to work.  :(  I hate to see this building go - it breaks my heart !
Then why the hell did you buy it?
+1000 

that's part of what's wrong with this system, economic hardship demolition=total bullshit. If the facade could've been saved, then the inside could've been repaired

yeah, 1325 Laura had a bid to renovate from a code enforcement contractor which topped $400k.