Publix in San Marco project on hold

[stjr]

I got a lesson today on what can happen when you try to live in San Marco sans car.  My bike was stolen from the San Marco Skyway station ... in the middle of the day!  It was locked to the bike rack so someone used a set of cutters in broad daylight.  Now I am beginning to wonder - what is it you STJR?

Doug, I dislike the Skyway, not you.  Twasn't me.  Stephen would have you believe I have never driven a bike, much less the Skyway or other mass transit so it's clear I would never be a suspect.  

Here is a theory:  JTA arranged its disappearance so that you might use it to discredit Skyway critics as seeking revenge on the Skyway's riders.  Naaaaah....  JTA isn't that clever.  

Here is another:  JTA has no Skyway security and all those employees they hire to monitor the stations via cameras .... Well, they really don't .  Yeaaaah.... that's the JTA we all know.  

Sorry for your loss.  Jax will need to find a way to make bike riders like you feel safe to encourage more of your healthy and green habits.

Just curious, will you continue to use the Skyway?  How many others have been driven off by similar experiences?  Does JTA know of these incidences?  Do they do anything to address the resulting concerns?  Do they really care at all about Skyway riders?  (Maybe not, if they hope to kill it off.  Now, that's a JTA decision I would like to see.)

[blandman]

Interesting article in this week's Economist about the retail sector and struggling strip malls...seemed relevant here or under the Walmart thread.

I especially thought this was interesting: "Mr. McMahon recently observed two Barnes & Noble outlets close to each other in Maryland. The one in a strip mall did less well than the one with no dedicated parking, but near a cycle path and the train."

Here's a link: http://www.economist.com/node/18178507

[thelakelander]

Just curious, will you continue to use the Skyway?  How many others have been driven off by similar experiences?

I had a car stolen off of Emerson and I-95 a few years ago.  I was so put off by that experience that I purchased a truck within the next week.

[acme54321]

Don't know if it specifically had anything to do with East San Marco, but I passed the site a little while ago and there was a crew out there.  It looked like they were marking utilities coming into the site along Atlantic and Hendricks, they had ground penetrating radar or something similar they were pushing around.

There was also a crew installing new Wells Fargo signage on the Wachovia ... which I guess now is the Wells Fargo!

[dougskiles]

I got a lesson today on what can happen when you try to live in San Marco sans car.  My bike was stolen from the San Marco Skyway station ... in the middle of the day!  It was locked to the bike rack so someone used a set of cutters in broad daylight.  Now I am beginning to wonder - what is it you STJR?

Doug, I dislike the Skyway, not you.  Twasn't me.  Stephen would have you believe I have never driven a bike, much less the Skyway or other mass transit so it's clear I would never be a suspect. 

Here is a theory:  JTA arranged its disappearance so that you might use it to discredit Skyway critics as seeking revenge on the Skyway's riders.  Naaaaah....  JTA isn't that clever. 

Here is another:  JTA has no Skyway security and all those employees they hire to monitor the stations via cameras .... Well, they really don't .  Yeaaaah.... that's the JTA we all know. 

Sorry for your loss.  Jax will need to find a way to make bike riders like you feel safe to encourage more of your healthy and green habits.

Just curious, will you continue to use the Skyway?  How many others have been driven off by similar experiences?  Does JTA know of these incidences?  Do they do anything to address the resulting concerns?  Do they really care at all about Skyway riders?  (Maybe not, if they hope to kill it off.  Now, that's a JTA decision I would like to see.)

Hard to blame JTA for that one.  Dumb luck is what I wrote it off as.  And probably riding too nice of a bike to leave locked up for several hours.  I'm going to get the cheapest functional bike that I can find as a replacement.

Yes, JTA is aware of it and told me they have security cameras.  I also filed a police report.  But I have very little expectation of getting it back.

No, it won't stop me from riding the Skyway.  From where I work, it is the most convenient way for me to get downtown, particularly when I have meetings that will last longer than I can feed quarters into the parking meters.

I agree, we do need to provide a better environment for people riding bikes.  I love the freedom the bike provides.  It brings back many of the feelings I had as a kid riding my bike all over south Florida.

[blandman]

Why hasn't the "rush" to build walkable urban grocery stores materialized in San Marco?  http://urbanland.uli.org/Articles/2011/Mar/NewbergGrocery

[jaxlore]

because about the only thing jacksonville does rush to do is bull doze stuff.

[Timkin]

PLUS ONE!

[mtraininjax]

because about the only thing jacksonville does rush to do is bull doze stuff.

Wow, I guess The Strand and Peninsula are just imaginary concrete structures. I'll have to remember that when I am in them for parties, wow, will I get some strange looks from the other guests. Stranger than the looks I get here, mind you.

[jaxlore]

because about the only thing jacksonville does rush to do is bull doze stuff.

Wow, I guess The Strand and Peninsula are just imaginary concrete structures. I'll have to remember that when I am in them for parties, wow, will I get some strange looks from the other guests. Stranger than the looks I get here, mind you.

no but neither of those are grocery stores. I will give them a small + for having a Saki House on the back side.

Sure, props for building more high end condos. But we don't need any more condos at moment, we need reasons to get people to come to the Urban Core.

[Captain Zissou]

because about the only thing jacksonville does rush to do is bull doze stuff.

Wow, I guess The Strand and Peninsula are just imaginary concrete structures. I'll have to remember that when I am in them for parties, wow, will I get some strange looks from the other guests. Stranger than the looks I get here, mind you.

I'm not sure I get what you're saying.  Are you saying Jax should pat ourselves on the back and crack open a Natural Light because we've added 2 new residential structures in the past 4 years?? 

Just about every city our size or larger has done 5 times that amount since then.  Those two buildings also do nothing to activate the streets around them.  They're vertically built Marsh Landings, that's all. 

[Timkin]

because about the only thing jacksonville does rush to do is bull doze stuff.

Wow, I guess The Strand and Peninsula are just imaginary concrete structures. I'll have to remember that when I am in them for parties, wow, will I get some strange looks from the other guests. Stranger than the looks I get here, mind you.

 The point of the post was , and it is completely true ,  Jacksonville is famous , in part for bulldozing, Hence the almost total destruction of Brooklyn, La Villa, Downtown, etc.
 
   I get what you're saying, however you seem not to care at all about anything historic or significant, In real life ,you might be a really nice person.. I don't know but you sure readily pick fault with most every poster on the forum, and certainly with any view point of mine, but that too, is your option.

[exnewsman]

I got a lesson today on what can happen when you try to live in San Marco sans car.  My bike was stolen from the San Marco Skyway station ... in the middle of the day!  It was locked to the bike rack so someone used a set of cutters in broad daylight.  Now I am beginning to wonder - what is it you STJR?

Doug, I dislike the Skyway, not you.  Twasn't me.  Stephen would have you believe I have never driven a bike, much less the Skyway or other mass transit so it's clear I would never be a suspect. 

Here is a theory:  JTA arranged its disappearance so that you might use it to discredit Skyway critics as seeking revenge on the Skyway's riders.  Naaaaah....  JTA isn't that clever. 

Here is another:  JTA has no Skyway security and all those employees they hire to monitor the stations via cameras .... Well, they really don't .  Yeaaaah.... that's the JTA we all know. 

Sorry for your loss.  Jax will need to find a way to make bike riders like you feel safe to encourage more of your healthy and green habits.

Just curious, will you continue to use the Skyway?  How many others have been driven off by similar experiences?  Does JTA know of these incidences?  Do they do anything to address the resulting concerns?  Do they really care at all about Skyway riders?  (Maybe not, if they hope to kill it off.  Now, that's a JTA decision I would like to see.)

Hard to blame JTA for that one.  Dumb luck is what I wrote it off as.  And probably riding too nice of a bike to leave locked up for several hours.  I'm going to get the cheapest functional bike that I can find as a replacement.

Yes, JTA is aware of it and told me they have security cameras.  I also filed a police report.  But I have very little expectation of getting it back.

No, it won't stop me from riding the Skyway.  From where I work, it is the most convenient way for me to get downtown, particularly when I have meetings that will last longer than I can feed quarters into the parking meters.

I agree, we do need to provide a better environment for people riding bikes.  I love the freedom the bike provides.  It brings back many of the feelings I had as a kid riding my bike all over south Florida.

Good for you Doug for having such a positive attitude in light of your less-than-positive situation. I agree that it would be difficult to blame JTA on that one. It could have truly happened anywhere in the city. Although I wonder how someone can walk around carrying bolt cutters and not get some kind of notice.

[acme54321]

Today driving by the site i noticed pink city signs announcing a hearing regarding the development of the property.  They did not have a date on them but they looked new and I hadn't noticed them before.  They were on the Publix site and the other empty lot east of the Wachovia.

[dougskiles]

The signs on the property are noticing the public hearing for the development agreement they applied for.  They hold a concurrency reservation certificate (CRC) for the project which is set to expire.  For them to avoid the soon-to-be-implemented mobility fee they needed to obtain a development agreement for the trips they have through the CRC.

They must receive city council approval for the development agreement.  I am a supporter of the mobility plan and generally would not approve of someone working their way around it.  However, in this case, the entire project was planned without the expectation of a large mobility fee payment.  It doesn't seem fair for them to have to include that cost now.

As I'm writing this, it did occur to me that the council could include some conditions on the approval that they incorporate some of the transit elements into their plan that would have allowed them to reduce the mobility fee.