SPAR to "get rid of" Membership?

Started by stephendare, December 03, 2008, 09:52:40 AM

downtownparks

I cant ask questions?. Were you there? Did you hear the context? Who said it? I dont know any of the three answers, as I wasn't there.

Karl_Pilkington

Quote from: FinnegansWake on December 04, 2008, 02:10:46 PM
(I wasn't at any meeting where that came up, and I wasn't at the private meeting where that person suggested it).

It was not the whole group. There are good people working with idiots in all walks of life.

Phil

There's the problem.  If the board is having "private meetings" and then one of them says this at an open meeting, you can only imagine whats going on behind closed doors.  In response to membership concerns too, wow its really more than idiotic its scary.
"Does the brain control you or are you controlling the brain? I don't know if I'm in charge of mine." KP

Derek Hudson

I, as a board member, have never been to a private board meeting (except for a non-business, non-public board orientation) nor have I been privy to knowledge of any private board meetings.

I also don't recall ever hearing any of our board members suggest that we dump our membership (especially since board members are required to be SPAR Council members) and become simply an advocacy group.  I don't see how that would be possible since (aside from part-time office staff and LISC-funded commercial revitalization staff) we are 100% volunteer.  I do know that it has never been proposed as a motion to the board and am fairly certain that such a motion would die on the table without being seconded.

Now, if one of our board members did say that, we don't know what was meant without the full context.  If it was said in sarcasm, then it means the opposite of what has been suggested by the original poster.  I'd really like to know more.

FinnegansWake

Quote from: Karl_Pilkington on December 04, 2008, 02:30:26 PM
Quote from: FinnegansWake on December 04, 2008, 02:10:46 PM
(I wasn't at any meeting where that came up, and I wasn't at the private meeting where that person suggested it).

It was not the whole group. There are good people working with idiots in all walks of life.

Phil

There's the problem.  If the board is having "private meetings" and then one of them says this at an open meeting, you can only imagine whats going on behind closed doors.  In response to membership concerns too, wow its really more than idiotic its scary.

I was talking about the meeting between Alex and Jack. No one else was there. In fact I clued a couple of Board members in on what happened after the fact, after talking to Alex.

Derek Hudson

Quote from: FinnegansWake on December 04, 2008, 02:10:46 PM
(I wasn't at any meeting where that came up, and I wasn't at the private meeting where that person suggested it).

I was talking about the meeting between Alex and Jack. No one else was there. In fact I clued a couple of Board members in on what happened after the fact, after talking to Alex.
Ahh - I'm still pissed off about that one.  I wish Alex and I had talked before he resigned; I would like to have tried and talk him out of it.

nvrenuf

You can blame me Derek, I was tired of bandaging the wounds from the brick wall he kept running into.  ::) The Jack landmine was the last straw for me, although Alex did make up his mind entirely on his own.

zoo

QuoteI was tired of bandaging the wounds from the brick wall he kept running into.

LOL. That is exactly what my significant other says!!!

RiversideGator

Do any of y'all think these silly arguments actually help the neighborhood at all?

jbm32206

If you were part of this neighborhood and it actually concerned you, then you wouldn't like someone from the outside, not impacted by this to ask a silly question such as what you just did.

zoo

River, the answer is no. I keep coming back to correct misinformation hoping that reasonable folks won't be driven off by the nonsense (perhaps this thought belongs in the deleted Conspiracy thread).

RiversideGator

Ok.  So how do the arguments help the neighborhood? 

Do they renovate another home?  Do they eliminate Section 8 housing?  Do they remove more of the criminal element?  Do they being in retail?

jbm32206

It's a problem between membership and the spar council

downtownparks

When was the rumor confirmed? Has anyone posted that they were present when the statement was made? I also had heard the rumor, but as anyone who has lived in SPR for more than a month should know, not all rumors are true.

jbm32206

I agree with that....although I have too look back through the threads, but I do believe someone said they heard that said....I just don't recall who said they did...

RiversideGator

Quote from: zoo on December 04, 2008, 05:40:46 PM
River, the answer is no. I keep coming back to correct misinformation hoping that reasonable folks won't be driven off by the nonsense (perhaps this thought belongs in the deleted Conspiracy thread).

Agreed.  There appears to be a core group of anti-establishment SPAR haters who thrive on posting hate filled screeds against SPAR and its Board.  It really is ridiculous.  As an admitted outsider, it seems that SPAR has had a lot of success over the years.  Springfield is tremendously improved over years past.  It isnt Avondale but it isnt the ghetto anymore either.  People need to just keep their noses to the grindstones, fix up there own little piece of property (and hopefully others), ignore gossips and the rest will usually take care of itself.