BioRemediation For Hogan's Creek. Not this stupid total earth replacement.

[32206livedraps]

I know its not on topic but I have to ask. This is the second or third time you mentioned SPAR paying the light bill on main st. Why is SPAR responsible for lighting a federal road way???.
If someone wants to move this to another thread that's fine with me.

WOW SPAR being trusted to pay our light bill? Given their love for Craig let's hope there isn't a repeat of his actions or we will all find ourselves in the dark.

[BridgeTroll]

Please try and limit conversation in this thread to the health of Hogans Creek.  Discussions about SPAR are important and should stay in SPAR oriented threads.

[strider]

It looks like Appendix 1 shows the contamination levels in Hogan's Creek of only fecal coliform (based on a Basin Management Action Plan mtg I recently attended, the DEP should be able to confirm that many of the Lower St. Johns tributaries are being used as toilets and dump sites by Jacksonville's homeless population).

My statement is quoted above. All I've stated is that DEP reported tributaries are being used in this manner. I in no way indicate the DEP claims it is the only source, nor did I.

For you to infer what you did must be indicative of your "true colors."

OK, Zoo, I actually feel like I must apologize for the "colors" statement.  I may have misread the intensions of the post.  The rest of my post stands.  The entire St. John's river system has contamination issues and this includes Hogan's Creek.  I would think what is done to or for one effects the other.

Bridgetroll, it was actually suggested  by someone to have "porta potti parks" and is a good idea. Probably not popular as where do you put them? Nobody would want them in "their back yard".

Once years ago, I built a commercial building and was told by the city (not Jax, in this case) to hook my sanitary system up to a particular line.  We dug the expensive trench, started laying pipe and when we got to the line, we started scratching our heads and realized that it was a storm sewer.  The city insisted it wasn't.  Until they actually looked and saw what we saw.  I got to dig another expensive trench the other direction.  Makes you wonder how many times that actually happens and how many times even JEA ties into the wrong line. 

I would think that it is difficult to identify all of the older sewer, gas and water lines in an older nieghborhood and even downtown. So, how is that done when new infrastructure in put in? Are all of the inflows into Hogans' creek really identified?

[downtownparks]

Good points, but even with out accidental, or even secretive sewage taps, the infrastructure under Springfield is a hot mess. This is the reason our streets are caving in at an alarming rate. When these old pipes fail, where does the sewage go? Down hill. It may not be as bad as raw sewage getting into the creek as there would be some natural filtration, but enough for some good old fashion fecal coliform issues.

[downtownparks]

Nobody is disagreeing with you. However, if you don't stem off the source of contamination, your doing it for naught.

[Jason]

Not repairing the source of the problem harms other aspects of the area, not just the creek.  Yeah, bioremediation may rid the creek of dangerous bacteria, but what about the lawns, schools, playgrounds, parks, and ground water along the way?

[KuroiKetsunoHana]

the painting kind ov hit me upside my head--confederate park used to look that nice?  what the hell happened?

[hooplady]

the painting kind ov hit me upside my head--confederate park used to look that nice?  what the hell happened?

Air conditioning.

[urbanlibertarian]

Let's put one of these in every house in Springfield and Durkeeville.

[sheclown]

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,8444.msg150134.html#new

Let's get smart with this...and use the latest technology... Mother Nature.

[Captain Zissou]

Are these plants hard to come by or set up?  What's wrong with a little unauthorized phyto-remediation?  Just plant some of these bad boys at dusk and nobody will know the difference.  We couldn't do this in the walled areas, but I don't see why not in the other parts.  Plants can't hurt the creek and it can't get much worse anyway.

[sheclown]

Are these plants hard to come by or set up?  What's wrong with a little unauthorized phyto-remediation? Just plant some of these bad boys at dusk and nobody will know the difference.  We couldn't do this in the walled areas, but I don't see why not in the other parts.  Plants can't hurt the creek and it can't get much worse anyway.

The really beautiful thing is that photoremediation doesn't need to be authorized.  You don't need a license to plant a sunflower or a mushroom.  You don't need a permit to throw out a dead plant at the end of its usefulness.

It is a hands on for the homeowner, cheap, easy to clean up, and virtually without risk.