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Captain No

Started by Non-RedNeck Westsider, September 14, 2020, 10:43:18 AM

Non-RedNeck Westsider

I think most cities need more people like this on their civic councils/commissions/boards etc...

QuoteBefore voting no on such tax breaks, he said he asks developers or business owners if they would build without the incentives — and he said he almost always gets the same response of "yes," although some hesitate or cast doubts.

https://www.inforum.com/news/government-and-politics/6645163-This-is-why-Fargo-City-Commissions-Captain-No-votes-against-all-business-tax-breaks
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marcuscnelson

I think it's important to have a reason for it. Voting no for the sake of voting no or wanting to drown government in a bathtub isn't necessarily the right thing to do. Also not every city is Fargo.
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acme54321

Quote from: marcuscnelson on September 14, 2020, 11:16:55 AM
I think it's important to have a reason for it. Voting no for the sake of voting no or wanting to drown government in a bathtub isn't necessarily the right thing to do. Also not every city is Fargo.

If a developer tell you that they will build a project with or without incentives the only reason they want them is to pad their pockets.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: acme54321 on September 14, 2020, 12:12:05 PM
Quote from: marcuscnelson on September 14, 2020, 11:16:55 AM
I think it's important to have a reason for it. Voting no for the sake of voting no or wanting to drown government in a bathtub isn't necessarily the right thing to do. Also not every city is Fargo.

If a developer tell you that they will build a project with or without incentives the only reason they want them is to pad their pockets.

Correct.

Basically in any transaction in life, you're not really doing your due diligence if you don't ask/apply for every credit that's available to you.

Some you need, some you just want.  Some are deal-breakers, others are just icing.

In most cases, for developers, it's just icing, which is why I've just never understood why it's so damn hard for our council members to say no. 
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