Browns vs Jags

Shwaz · October 29, 2008, 02:43:30 PM

QuoteI'll give you that FT ain't the same like a decade ago

and the offensive line and defense isn't either... nor ar the rb's east & west runners.

QuoteBTW, explain MJD's first down run (the Jags ONLY outside run) on the outside??

It was a great PLAY CALL - the defense was looking for the run off right tackle and MJD got 2-3 yards which was just enough for the first down. Even that play had mild sucess against a completely fooled defense... doesn't back up running the corners

Keith-N-Jax · October 29, 2008, 07:06:18 PM

Yes cooperfiend I go to all games(home games) if I am not out of town. The Buffalo game I missed because I was in New York. Last yr missed 4 home games, couldnt get tickets for the San Diego game and was out of town on the rest of them. During the Atlanta preseason game I sat in the nose bleed section, there actually not bad seats. Normally I sit in the 203 section though. I hope the Jags can turn the season around quick or we probably will have blackouts next season. Go Jags!!

I-10east · October 30, 2008, 12:12:54 PM

Quote from: Shwaz on October 29, 2008, 02:43:30 PM
It was a great PLAY CALL - the defense was looking for the run off right tackle and MJD got 2-3 yards which was just enough for the first down. Even that play had mild sucess against a completely fooled defense... doesn't back up running the corners

Let me school you a lil'; CLE plays a 3-4 defense; Who would you rather face; At minimum, one or two weaker LB's that G. Jones and Guards could block wit' MJD runnin' on the corners avoiding S. Rogers, or S. Rogers up the gut who we couldn't block ALL DAY??

Quit saying that STUPID non-east/west runner crap!! Oh yeah, MJD, and Freddie will just evaporate when then past the hashmarks!

Shwaz · October 30, 2008, 01:05:58 PM

Fist of all their are 4 linebackers in a 3-4 scheme.. not 2. These 4 linebacker have full range of view of the play and can stop the gaps on the line or run to the corners as soon as it develops. Let's says you block the LB's behind them you have help from the strong safety and corners who close even faster.

The 3-4 plays zone "man to man" coverage with the strong safety in or near the box. With zone coverage any team is going to throw the ball more. We did effectively.

Check a book out about defensive schemes while your at the library..

jacksonvilleconfidential · October 30, 2008, 01:07:55 PM

ooooh, SNAP!

copperfiend · October 30, 2008, 02:18:35 PM

Quote from: Shwaz on October 30, 2008, 01:05:58 PM

Check a book out about defensive schemes while your at the library..

Irony

I-10east · October 31, 2008, 12:14:47 PM

Quote from: Shwaz on October 30, 2008, 01:05:58 PM
Fist of all their are 4 linebackers in a 3-4 scheme.. not 2. These 4 linebacker have full range of view of the play and can stop the gaps on the line or run to the corners as soon as it develops. Let's says you block the LB's behind them you have help from the strong safety and corners who close even faster.

The 3-4 plays zone "man to man" coverage with the strong safety in or near the box. With zone coverage any team is going to throw the ball more. We did effectively.

Check a book out about defensive schemes while your at the library..

The other two LB's on the opposite side are on the OTHER side of the field you genius; You're really a freakin' Einstein you know!__What you said is just like saying that shooting a 50 meter military target is the same like shooting a 100 meter target; All of the LB's DON'T have the same range defending a sweep to the outside!! YOU need to go to the library! What I'm arguing, you can disagree if you wanna but you CANNOT deny that I'm making a valid point!! Oh yeah; You need to block ALL of the freakin' LB's on the field when your team runs a weak-side HB Sweep, or HB Toss__

__Note to Shass; The two strong-side LB's are for the most part OUTTA THE PLAY; MJD or Freddie taking on a safety is a BIG DIFFERENCE than taking on a DT, or NG you idiot!! By time that the opposite-side LB's get to the play (and average blocking), Hell MJD already got atleast five yards!! Keep on responding to me Shass, and I'll keep defending myself relentlessly; I got NOTHING else to do!__Dummy!!___:

Shwaz · October 31, 2008, 12:58:34 PM

That was the biggest bunch of nonsense... and this argument is stale.

Quotein the end you sound like one of those stubborn fans who thinks he could coach a team. I wonder why NFL franchises aren't calling you...

Keep yelling at the tv and blame the coaches for everything that goes wrong. Call the JSO hotline and tell them you think DelRio should be investigated in the Coliier shooting... because he's trying to kill the team.

Jason · October 31, 2008, 02:26:20 PM

Come on guys, keep it cordial.

I-10east · October 31, 2008, 02:57:21 PM

^^I'll try Jason; That guy is UNBELIEVABLE!! I even explained to my younger brother (who don't know much about football BTW) OBJECTIVELY about the LB range scenario, and he agreed wit' me that they DON'T have the same range on a toss, or sweep play; That's to obvious!!!!!!

I-10east___50

Shwaz______0

Shwaz · October 31, 2008, 03:05:44 PM

QuoteI even explained to my younger brother (who don't know much about football BTW)

I see the relation

I-10east · October 31, 2008, 03:23:50 PM

^^Hahaha!!!That's a good one; Talk about football Shwaz; You STILL haven't defended yourself; Explain the LB scenario; You're STUMPED like Sam!!

Shwaz · October 31, 2008, 03:31:47 PM

QuoteFist of all their are 4 linebackers in a 3-4 scheme.. not 2. These 4 linebacker have full range of view of the play and can stop the gaps on the line or run to the corners as soon as it develops. Let's says you block the LB's behind them you have help from the strong safety and corners who close even faster.

Coolyfett · October 31, 2008, 04:25:00 PM

Quote from: ProjectMaximus on October 28, 2008, 08:58:53 PM
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on October 28, 2008, 07:48:29 PM
We do have good fans just not enough.

Bingo. That takes a lot of time to cultivate. There are few new teams (not from the original AFL-NFL merger) that have a tried-and-true fanbase.

And those team are?

ProjectMaximus · October 31, 2008, 06:38:22 PM

Quote from: Coolyfett on October 31, 2008, 04:25:00 PM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on October 28, 2008, 08:58:53 PM
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on October 28, 2008, 07:48:29 PM
We do have good fans just not enough.

Bingo. That takes a lot of time to cultivate. There are few new teams (not from the original AFL-NFL merger) that have a tried-and-true fanbase.

And those team are?

Haha, you might have a point. Maybe there aren't any. I said few simply to make a point, but now that I think about it, perhaps I should've said none.

Here's a list of the teams that have relocated to an entirely new market or have expanded since the merger:
Indy Colts
Arizona Cards
St Louis Rams
Tenn Titans
TB Bucs
Seattle Seahawks
Carolina Panthers
Baltimore Ravens (although they did have a team back in the early NFL days)
Houston Texans
and us Jaguars.

From the outside, I'd guess that it seems the Bucs, Seahawks, Panthers, and Ravens have very good fans. But not the "tried-and-true" kind...and I don't really know. I have no facts to back that up, just my opinion.