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Jax and Coronavirus

Started by sanmarcomatt, March 13, 2020, 01:58:24 PM

Ken_FSU

^Bet it's not small to Florida's First Coast Relief Fund, Feeding Northeast Florida, Clara White Mission, the Northeast Florida Red Cross, and the Jacksonville Public Education Fund.

blizz01

Curious, what would have been more appropriate for you?  If he didn't donate would we have noticed?  Perhaps he's giving
in other ways or within other hard hit areas where he has personal interests like Chicago, Karachi, London, etc.(?).

Appreciate the gesture.

Shad will remain uber-rich, but suffice to say that he's not in the same position he was three weeks ago...

Bill Hoff

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Quote from: Ken_FSU on March 24, 2020, 05:21:34 PM
^Bet it's not small to Florida's First Coast Relief Fund, Feeding Northeast Florida, Clara White Mission, the Northeast Florida Red Cross, and the Jacksonville Public Education Fund.

Sort of. Not small necessarily, but underwhelming. Most of those orgs had equal or greater donations (including last year) without being in the largest crisis modern America has faced.

Bill Hoff

Quote from: blizz01 on March 24, 2020, 07:40:12 PM
Curious, what would have been more appropriate for you?  If he didn't donate would we have noticed?  Perhaps he's giving
in other ways or within other hard hit areas where he has personal interests like Chicago, Karachi, London, etc.(?).

Appreciate the gesture.

Shad will remain uber-rich, but suffice to say that he's not in the same position he was three weeks ago...

Something more equal to the grandness of the problem. He's visible to the public in a handful of communities. You'd think in the largest health & economic crisis modern America has experienced, he may be inclined to give a bit more. $200k is a typical large donation for most of those orgs. He's not a typical rich guy, these aren't typical times.

BridgeTroll

Quote from: Steve on March 24, 2020, 04:05:13 PM
Quote from: Ken_FSU on March 24, 2020, 02:59:52 PM
Continue to be impressed by Curry's firm but measured response, resisting a curfew to avoid putting undue stress on the police force, but threatening to condemn and turn off utilities to any business flagrantly violating the work from home if possible/6 feet apart if not order.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/03/24/watch-live-mayor-lenny-curry-provides-briefing-on-coronavirus-response/

Not sure what you guys' experience has been like, but overall, I'm really proud of how the city's reacted and come together here in the last week and a half. Feels like it's being taken seriously by citizens and businesses, and at this point, new infections here in Duval don't seem to be growing as quickly as other areas.

I've been shocked at how well Curry is doing.

I think DeSantis has done less well, and Trump has been, well, as I would have expected him to be in this situation.
Hmmm... I think DeSantis has done fine. The alternative was Gillum and we all know what happened to him...
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acme54321

Yeah, I think DeSantis is doing pretty well myself.  He's been catching some flak from South Florida it seems but he has to consider the entire state.

vicupstate

Quote from: acme54321 on March 25, 2020, 08:27:54 AM
Yeah, I think DeSantis is doing pretty well myself.  He's been catching some flak from South Florida it seems but he has to consider the entire state.

Couldn't he issue orders for specific counties?
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Snaketoz

So far, I have changed my opinion on DeSantis.  I think he is doing fine. 
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot."

Steve

Quote from: vicupstate on March 25, 2020, 09:36:07 AM
Quote from: acme54321 on March 25, 2020, 08:27:54 AM
Yeah, I think DeSantis is doing pretty well myself.  He's been catching some flak from South Florida it seems but he has to consider the entire state.

Couldn't he issue orders for specific counties?

I'm sure he CAN. In New York it's very common for different decisions to be made "Downstate" (NYC Area and Long Island) versus "Upstate". Georgia also does this from time to time with the Atlanta area and the rest of the state.

But it could also complicate relations with those cities and counties if they disagreed with the Governor so I'm guessing DeSantis would like to avoid that if at all possible.

The New York example has existed for a long time both in emergencies like now as well as during the normal course of legislation. I've not lived in California, but they probably have similar issues - the northern and southern parts of the state are similar as they're both very urban, but the middle of the state is comparatively very rural. I'm curious how they handle state-level things.

Steve

Quote from: BridgeTroll on March 25, 2020, 06:45:18 AM
Quote from: Steve on March 24, 2020, 04:05:13 PM
Quote from: Ken_FSU on March 24, 2020, 02:59:52 PM
Continue to be impressed by Curry's firm but measured response, resisting a curfew to avoid putting undue stress on the police force, but threatening to condemn and turn off utilities to any business flagrantly violating the work from home if possible/6 feet apart if not order.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/03/24/watch-live-mayor-lenny-curry-provides-briefing-on-coronavirus-response/

Not sure what you guys' experience has been like, but overall, I'm really proud of how the city's reacted and come together here in the last week and a half. Feels like it's being taken seriously by citizens and businesses, and at this point, new infections here in Duval don't seem to be growing as quickly as other areas.

I've been shocked at how well Curry is doing.

I think DeSantis has done less well, and Trump has been, well, as I would have expected him to be in this situation.
Hmmm... I think DeSantis has done fine. The alternative was Gillum and we all know what happened to him...

To be clear - I used the language "less well" on purpose. I think he's been good, but not great. I think early on the state agencies and the local areas had some clear miscommunications, which was usually the result of the state making a decision that affected the cities and counties, and the local officials clearly had no idea it was coming.

As the State can make a decision that can affect the cities and counties (not the other way around) to me the burden is on the State to ensure the cities and counties are kept in the loop and that wasn't happening. It seems to have been better of late.

Thus, "less well."

Tacachale

IMO DeSantis is doing pretty well. We're a very populous state and a lot of factors are at play, on top of how much this situation has evolved in just a few months. Yes, the state should have moved with more urgency, but there are a lot of tough decisions here no one ever wants to have to make. Overall, I think he's risen to it.
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77danj7

Quote from: Bill Hoff on March 24, 2020, 10:13:00 PM
Quote from: blizz01 on March 24, 2020, 07:40:12 PM
Curious, what would have been more appropriate for you?  If he didn't donate would we have noticed?  Perhaps he's giving
in other ways or within other hard hit areas where he has personal interests like Chicago, Karachi, London, etc.(?).

Appreciate the gesture.

Shad will remain uber-rich, but suffice to say that he's not in the same position he was three weeks ago...

Something more equal to the grandness of the problem. He's visible to the public in a handful of communities. You'd think in the largest health & economic crisis modern America has experienced, he may be inclined to give a bit more. $200k is a typical large donation for most of those orgs. He's not a typical rich guy, these aren't typical times.

Meanwhile, Drew Brees, who definitely is not near Khan's worth, just committed to $5,000,000 to the State of Louisiana

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: sanmarcomatt on March 26, 2020, 10:16:05 AM
Birdies is evidently an early casualty. Hopefully we can get through this reasonably quickly or the list could get ugly.

I think Birdies had some other stuff happening behind the scenes that kind of sped up the process.

My social media has been split pretty evenly on who/what's to blame.
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"We have the Greatest number of cases. Even more than Jina! We are the most Tremendous Nation. It is thanks to my Wonderful Leadership that we have done this. Very soon, we shall exceed ALL those puny nations in the number of deaths. Again, the USA will lead the world. Thanks to ME."  Upcoming Tweet from the Twit

I-10east

The health and safety of American citizens isn't paramount. Abortions, illegals aliens, solar panels, and other lefty stuff is, courtesy of Pelosi and Schumer. I heard that abortions was entrenched into the stimulus package; no telling what else nonsense is also. Thanks for putting you party's special interest spending over working Americans DNC.... #Walkaway #Blexit