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Jax and Coronavirus

Started by sanmarcomatt, March 13, 2020, 01:58:24 PM

Kerry

#30
Quote from: marcuscnelson on March 16, 2020, 11:01:10 PM
Holy shit, 96 million cases and half a million deaths? In two months?

I'll bet you anything you want that we won't have 480,000 deaths by May 17th.  China is a 3rd world country with poor sanitation, rampant lung diseases in every one, and substandard healthcare across the board and they only have 3,024 deaths.

This isn't the black plague.  There won't be a Monty Python scene with a guy dragging a cart through your subdivision yelling, "Bring out your dead!"
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Adam White

Quote from: BridgeTroll on March 17, 2020, 07:43:23 AM
Quote from: Kerry on March 16, 2020, 10:16:42 PM
Quote from: Charles Hunter on March 16, 2020, 07:31:25 PM
That it is spreading quickly, we have no vaccine or treatment, and it kills at a much higher rate than the seasonal flu - to which it is often, improperly, compared. Also, it can cause pneumonia or other severe respiratory distress, requiring ventilators and ICU stays.  Experts are worried the medical system will be overwhelmed as the number of patients outnumbers the available ventilators and ICU beds.

But, I don't get the run on TP.

All that is only true for a very small percentage of people.  The vast majority don't even know they have it or have symptoms that only last a few hours.

You could have already had it and not even know it.
Pretty simply... this is EXACTLY the reason to "social distance " and take prudent measures. Apparently however there seems to be a cadre of people just like you who don't get it...

+1000
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

Ken_FSU

ProTip:

If you've got the means, desire, and risk-aversion to support small businesses, particularly downtown, consider picking up a couple of gift cards.

Will give cash flow a little boost for restaurants in the short-term, and you'll be able to use them as soon as it's safe and socially responsible to gather again :)


Charles Hunter

Quote from: Ken_FSU on March 17, 2020, 09:32:30 AM
ProTip:

If you've got the means, desire, and risk-aversion to support small businesses, particularly downtown, consider picking up a couple of gift cards.

Will give cash flow a little boost for restaurants in the short-term, and you'll be able to use them as soon as it's safe and socially responsible to gather again :)



Kerry, you seem pretty risk-averse, and seem to have the means.  Get yourself out and buy gift cards from some small businesses.

Kerry

Quote from: Charles Hunter on March 17, 2020, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: Ken_FSU on March 17, 2020, 09:32:30 AM
ProTip:

If you've got the means, desire, and risk-aversion to support small businesses, particularly downtown, consider picking up a couple of gift cards.

Will give cash flow a little boost for restaurants in the short-term, and you'll be able to use them as soon as it's safe and socially responsible to gather again :)



Kerry, you seem pretty risk-averse, and seem to have the means.  Get yourself out and buy gift cards from some small businesses.

I'm going to places that are open.  Went to Top Golf on Sunday and it was nice going out to dinner Saturday night - no waiting.  Trying now to find a restaurant that is actually open for lunch.
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Kerry

If this is true, and I 100% believe it is, we are totally wasting our time with social distancing and closing everything.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/86-of-people-with-coronavirus-are-walking-around-undetected-study-says/
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Peter Griffin

Quote from: Kerry on March 17, 2020, 12:02:29 PM
If this is true, and I 100% believe it is, we are totally wasting our time with social distancing and closing everything.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/86-of-people-with-coronavirus-are-walking-around-undetected-study-says/

If 86% of suspected infected are undetected then social distancing makes even MORE sense! That means that people could be spreading the virus without even knowing they've got it. If 100% of cases were detected, easy. Just put those people in isolation/quarantine. But since most carriers are unknowingly carrying and spreading it, we gotta be more proactive in preventing the spread.

You've contradicted yourself with the source you provided. Nicely done!

BridgeTroll

He does it often. I am beginning to think that he doesn't believe half of the tripe he spouts...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Kerry

#38
Quote from: Peter Griffin on March 17, 2020, 12:29:04 PM
Quote from: Kerry on March 17, 2020, 12:02:29 PM
If this is true, and I 100% believe it is, we are totally wasting our time with social distancing and closing everything.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/86-of-people-with-coronavirus-are-walking-around-undetected-study-says/

If 86% of suspected infected are undetected then social distancing makes even MORE sense! That means that people could be spreading the virus without even knowing they've got it. If 100% of cases were detected, easy. Just put those people in isolation/quarantine. But since most carriers are unknowingly carrying and spreading it, we gotta be more proactive in preventing the spread.

You've contradicted yourself with the source you provided. Nicely done!

Then you didn't read it.  We are socially distancing ourselves to protect us form a virus that doesn't do anything to 86% of the people that have it.

If you are afraid to get it then you can stay home.  I'm enjoying the reduced crowds.
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Adam White

Quote from: Kerry on March 17, 2020, 12:48:11 PM
Quote from: Peter Griffin on March 17, 2020, 12:29:04 PM
Quote from: Kerry on March 17, 2020, 12:02:29 PM
If this is true, and I 100% believe it is, we are totally wasting our time with social distancing and closing everything.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/86-of-people-with-coronavirus-are-walking-around-undetected-study-says/

If 86% of suspected infected are undetected then social distancing makes even MORE sense! That means that people could be spreading the virus without even knowing they've got it. If 100% of cases were detected, easy. Just put those people in isolation/quarantine. But since most carriers are unknowingly carrying and spreading it, we gotta be more proactive in preventing the spread.

You've contradicted yourself with the source you provided. Nicely done!

Then you didn't read it.  We are socially distancing ourselves to protect us form a virus that doesn't do anything to 86% of the people that have it.

If you are afraid to get it then you can stay home.  I'm enjoying the reduced crowds.

Maybe you should try thinking about somebody other than yourself.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

BridgeTroll

Change your avatar to Typhoid Kerry  :) :)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

CityLife

Quote from: Kerry on March 17, 2020, 12:48:11 PM
Quote from: Peter Griffin on March 17, 2020, 12:29:04 PM
Quote from: Kerry on March 17, 2020, 12:02:29 PM
If this is true, and I 100% believe it is, we are totally wasting our time with social distancing and closing everything.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/86-of-people-with-coronavirus-are-walking-around-undetected-study-says/

If 86% of suspected infected are undetected then social distancing makes even MORE sense! That means that people could be spreading the virus without even knowing they've got it. If 100% of cases were detected, easy. Just put those people in isolation/quarantine. But since most carriers are unknowingly carrying and spreading it, we gotta be more proactive in preventing the spread.

You've contradicted yourself with the source you provided. Nicely done!

Then you didn't read it.  We are socially distancing ourselves to protect us form a virus that doesn't do anything to 86% of the people that have it.

If you are afraid to get it then you can stay home.  I'm enjoying the reduced crowds.

1. That study only cites evidence from China and these are the authors of the study-Ruiyun Li, Sen Pei, Bin Chen, Yimeng Song, Tao Zhang, Wan Yang, Jeffrey Shaman. Nobody in the US with an IQ over 100 trusts anything coming out of China related to Covid-19.

2. Even if those figures are correct and only 14% of people develop serious symptoms, lets assume half of all Americans contract it. That is still approximately 23 million people. Let's then assume a conservative mortality rate of 5% during a mass outbreak (where the US medical network is strained and there are only 100-200k ventilators in service).  We are looking at 1,155,000 dead Americans. Sure many of them may be older, but I'd sure like to have my parents around another 10-15 years.

Now we could certainly limit control of the spread and treat patients with it better than what was just suggested in the above scenario, but the fact that it only *potentially* produces symptoms in 14% of people that contract it is by no means something to scoff at.

Kerry

Your parents aren't going to die.

Think of someone else besides myself?  I just left a $20 tip for the waitress at Sonny's because after tomorrow, she'll need the money because people like you guys are afriad to go outside.
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BridgeTroll

Quote from: Kerry on March 17, 2020, 01:50:17 PM
Your parents aren't going to die.

Think of someone else besides myself?  I just left a $20 tip for the waitress at Sonny's because after tomorrow, she'll need the money because people like you guys are afriad to go outside.
Are you still only tipping at 10%??
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Adam White

Quote from: Kerry on March 17, 2020, 01:50:17 PM
Your parents aren't going to die.

Think of someone else besides myself?  I just left a $20 tip for the waitress at Sonny's because after tomorrow, she'll need the money because people like you guys are afriad to go outside.

My parents might, though. And my wife's grandmother's assisted living facility currently has two reported cases (as of the most recent news I've heard). So her grandmother is at risk.

But glad to hear you got your barbecue, Daddy Warbucks.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."