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Adult Changing Tables

Started by Steve, August 22, 2019, 10:37:53 AM

Steve

Thoughts on this:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/the-mendenhall-report-new-city-ordinance-requires-adult-changing-tables

QuoteOrdinance 2019-646, introduced by Becton, was approved as an emergency July 23.

It requires some businesses with a public restroom to install an adult changing table if they are undertaking new construction or existing building renovations of more than 50%.

Not sure I get this. To be clear: I definitely agree with trying to help the disabled. It's just the right thing to do. But, read this:

QuoteRestaurants with seating for at least 50 people, shopping centers larger than 25,000 square feet and retailers with more than 5,000 square feet also fall under the requirement.

Here's what I don't get:

- Unless I'm wrong, BABY changing tables aren't required in all of these places. As a parent of baby/toddler twins I'm all for more changing tables and I'm sure I could use an adult changing table for a baby, but this seems like a LOT. For example, many retailers that are 5,000 sqFt don't even have a restroom open to the public. Additionally, there are some tiny restaurants that seat 50 people - where would they put this?

Again - not wanting to be unfriendly to disabled folks and those that care for them. But, can this even be done?

civil42806

Maybe the "littles" lobby is stronger than I thought

Adam White

Maybe this an ADA thing. I don't think babies are a protected class or whatever. Who knows. I've never seen an adult changing table (though I assume they'd be suitable for babies and children as well).
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

acme54321

There has to be more to this.  Sounds like it would take up a massive amount of space.  Also it seems like you would need to be in a specialized facility with multiple people to assist in changing an adult that is incompactitated to the extent of needing the table.

Adam White

Quote from: acme54321 on August 22, 2019, 01:20:36 PM
There has to be more to this.  Sounds like it would take up a massive amount of space.  Also it seems like you would need to be in a specialized facility with multiple people to assist in changing an adult that is incompactitated to the extent of needing the table.

Not so sure about the multiple people thing. But the whole thing is odd and I've never heard of this before.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

Steve

Quote from: Adam White on August 22, 2019, 01:34:47 PM
Quote from: acme54321 on August 22, 2019, 01:20:36 PM
There has to be more to this.  Sounds like it would take up a massive amount of space.  Also it seems like you would need to be in a specialized facility with multiple people to assist in changing an adult that is incompactitated to the extent of needing the table.

Not so sure about the multiple people thing. But the whole thing is odd and I've never heard of this before.

Agreed. Aside from a building code update I'm not sure why this was slammed home as an Emergency bill.

Kerry

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This is about as stupid as it gets.  If you're changing your child on a dirty bathroom floor that is your choice.  You might just have to decide that your child has limitations and learn to live with it.
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marcuscnelson

Quote from: Kerry on August 24, 2019, 04:04:59 PM
This is about as stupid as it gets.  If you're changing your child on a dirty bathroom floor that is your choice.  You might just have to decide that your child has limitations and learn to live with it.

I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here, Kerry. Are people supposed to just not change their children? Or just never leave home? What are you asking for? What does "learn to live with it" mean?
So, to the young people fighting in this movement for change, here is my charge: march in the streets, protest, run for school committee or city council or the state legislature. And win. - Ed Markey

Steve

Yea, not sure I get your point here man. This wasn't a discussion on child changing table.