Acosta Bridge LED Lights across span

[Kerry]

Haters get out of line. I'm looking forward to this being replaced. The rest of what Lake mentioned can still get done. Good grief!,, and let's take a shot at the Jags while we're at it. How pathetic.

I specifically mentioned the Jags because JTA specifically said they would light the bridge Teal before Jags home games.  The Jags are a private business.  If they want to use public facilities to promote their team then they can pony up some money.

[jaxlongtimer]

Haters get out of line. I'm looking forward to this being replaced. The rest of what Lake mentioned can still get done. Good grief!,, and let's take a shot at the Jags while we're at it. How pathetic.

This lack of civility is what is wrong with discourse today.  Vilifying anyone with an opinion that varies from yours is an attempt to shutdown voices with diverse points of view.  It is exactly what bedevils this City's progress.  Most of the population appears to be intimidated, browbeaten and/or frustrated (due to being dismissed and/or ignored) to take issue with decisions being made by our leaders and/or contributing constructive inputs into decision making processes.  This is resulting in countless actions wasting our taxpayer dollars, sidelining or half-ass implementing what should be our highest priorities for the good of the entire community and, overall, selling us short on maximizing our economic and quality of life potential for all our citizens and not just a few.  Hail to all those here who insist on making their voices heard, no matter the unpopularity of their comments.

[Steve]

Haters get out of line. I'm looking forward to this being replaced. The rest of what Lake mentioned can still get done. Good grief!,, and let's take a shot at the Jags while we're at it. How pathetic.

I specifically mentioned the Jags because JTA specifically said they would light the bridge Teal before Jags home games.  The Jags are a private business.  If they want to use public facilities to promote their team then they can pony up some money.

Not like there isn't precedence for this in other cities.

I'm a heterosexual, but during pride events I'm not going to ask JTA for private donations to light the bridge rainbow.

(To be clear I have no idea if that's the plan, but for the record I'm fine if they do it)

[Steve]

Since we are going to light it up teal for the Jags maybe Khan can throw us taxpayers a bone a pay for it out of his pocket.

Since you know, teal lights are more expensive than other colors.

[Snaketoz]

What is wrong with the bridge being lit in Jag's colors?  I'm proud the Jaguars are here.  Every city with a team uses different things to root for the locals.  Also, Miller Electric might have installed the lights, but I wouldn't hold that against them.  No more than I would blame a janitor for installing a bulb that failed quickly.  The bridges look great with the lights.

[DrQue]

I think this is a "low hanging fruit" type of project. The city needs to maintain attractive lighting on the bridges from a branding and image perspective. Lighting on the bridges shows very well from I-95, on nighttime football broadcasts etc..

[Steve]

Also, Miller Electric might have installed the lights, but I wouldn't hold that against them.  No more than I would blame a janitor for installing a bulb that failed quickly.

Exactly. I have no idea who's fault the Main St Bridge light disaster was, but for us on the sidelines to say it was Miller Electric is a little rough.

1. It's not like Miller Electric is some small-time electrician. They're one of the largest in the country and they likely didn't get that way messing up very visible projects.
2. They didn't design the thing. Kerry's Link had the name of the people that designed it. But, it has to be the contractor right?
3. Maybe Miller Electric did screw up. It's not for me to say.

Didn't realize Kerry was an electrical engineer specializing in outdoor commercial projects in his spare time.

[vicupstate]

I think this is a "low hanging fruit" type of project. The city needs to maintain attractive lighting on the bridges from a branding and image perspective. Lighting on the bridges shows very well from I-95, on nighttime football broadcasts etc..

+1000.  Two things JAX residents have never adequately appreciated is the value of the visibility of the nighttime lighting and the River itself.

[Kerry]

The residents do value those things, but we have a city government asleep at the wheel for 50 years.

[Snaketoz]

The residents do value those things, but we have a city government asleep at the wheel for 50 years.

I believe that city government is better in the last 50 years than it was in the preceding 50 years.  Our problem has always been boo birds,  low self esteem, and backward, good ole boy politics.  The old ways are dying out, but we seem to be heading into being a city for the highest bidder/biggest donors, and politics trumps merit.  We don't want to go back to the days of thinking: odors=$, tourists are to be shunned, nothing is worth raising taxes for, and the environment is too vast for man to damage.

[Kerry]

Also, Miller Electric might have installed the lights, but I wouldn't hold that against them.  No more than I would blame a janitor for installing a bulb that failed quickly.

Exactly. I have no idea who's fault the Main St Bridge light disaster was, but for us on the sidelines to say it was Miller Electric is a little rough.

1. It's not like Miller Electric is some small-time electrician. They're one of the largest in the country and they likely didn't get that way messing up very visible projects.
2. They didn't design the thing. Kerry's Link had the name of the people that designed it. But, it has to be the contractor right?
3. Maybe Miller Electric did screw up. It's not for me to say.

Didn't realize Kerry was an electrical engineer specializing in outdoor commercial projects in his spare time.

It isn't just the Acosta Bridge.  Every LED light on the Southbank Riverwalk is out.  Friendship fountain doesn't work, and someone could probably make a list a mile long.  Where are the lawsuits by JTA and the City to hold whomever it is accountable and protect the residents from this nonsense.  They just say "The lights don't work.  Oh well."  Well that isn't good enough anymore.  The City Attorney needs to step it up.

[Captain Zissou]

^You're so good at pointing out when other people need to stand up and make a difference.  When are you going to do it yourself?

[acme54321]

Also, Miller Electric might have installed the lights, but I wouldn't hold that against them.  No more than I would blame a janitor for installing a bulb that failed quickly.

Exactly. I have no idea who's fault the Main St Bridge light disaster was, but for us on the sidelines to say it was Miller Electric is a little rough.

1. It's not like Miller Electric is some small-time electrician. They're one of the largest in the country and they likely didn't get that way messing up very visible projects.
2. They didn't design the thing. Kerry's Link had the name of the people that designed it. But, it has to be the contractor right?
3. Maybe Miller Electric did screw up. It's not for me to say.

Didn't realize Kerry was an electrical engineer specializing in outdoor commercial projects in his spare time.

It isn't just the Acosta Bridge.  Every LED light on the Southbank Riverwalk is out.  Friendship fountain doesn't work, and someone could probably make a list a mile long.  Where are the lawsuits by JTA and the City to hold whomever it is accountable and protect the residents from this nonsense.  They just say "The lights don't work.  Oh well."  Well that isn't good enough anymore.  The City Attorney needs to step it up.

I don't know about the city government level, but I have some experience with construction at the Federal level.  These things don't have 10 year warranties.  Typicallt it is one year from the contractor, anything else is an exception on a pruduct by product basis.  If those things broke three years after installation that is probably now on the city to repair.  It would be a whole lot cheaper to just fix the broken items than suing everyone too.  Who's fault is it?  Supplier, designer, contractor, customer?  Queue the finger pointing.

[DrQue]

Hence why the city needs to focus on maintaining the investments it makes in things like lighting etc.

At minimum, plan and budget for repair and replacement. If the long-run maintenance costs are unpalatable then don't make the investment to begin with.

[Steve]

Also, Miller Electric might have installed the lights, but I wouldn't hold that against them.  No more than I would blame a janitor for installing a bulb that failed quickly.

Exactly. I have no idea who's fault the Main St Bridge light disaster was, but for us on the sidelines to say it was Miller Electric is a little rough.

1. It's not like Miller Electric is some small-time electrician. They're one of the largest in the country and they likely didn't get that way messing up very visible projects.
2. They didn't design the thing. Kerry's Link had the name of the people that designed it. But, it has to be the contractor right?
3. Maybe Miller Electric did screw up. It's not for me to say.

Didn't realize Kerry was an electrical engineer specializing in outdoor commercial projects in his spare time.

It isn't just the Acosta Bridge.  Every LED light on the Southbank Riverwalk is out.  Friendship fountain doesn't work, and someone could probably make a list a mile long.  Where are the lawsuits by JTA and the City to hold whomever it is accountable and protect the residents from this nonsense.  They just say "The lights don't work.  Oh well."  Well that isn't good enough anymore.  The City Attorney needs to step it up.

If you want to make a stink about bad maintenance, I'm with you.

Not sure how your comment about Miller Electric is related though. Don't know that you should hold a contractor accountable because a lightbulb burns out.