Jaguars New Stadium?

[jaxjags]

Sorry but you are incorrect. SMG managers the stadium. Just look up COJ-SMG. For instance Khan cannot prevent and is not responsible for FL-GA, Gator Bowl, Rolling Stones etc. SMG works with other entities and promoters for these types of events. Again if the Jags or Khan leave town, those events still go own.

[Kerry]

I would argue the City would host far more events at the stadium if it wasn't home to an NFL team.  The Jags use it for 9 games a year, but the stadium is unusable for almost any other activity for 5 months.

[jaxjags]

Perhaps, but stadium tours are not very popular these days and usually not in the fall.

[vicupstate]

Sorry but you are incorrect. SMG managers the stadium. Just look up COJ-SMG. For instance Khan cannot prevent and is not responsible for FL-GA, Gator Bowl, Rolling Stones etc. SMG works with other entities and promoters for these types of events. Again if the Jags or Khan leave town, those events still go own.

SMG is not going to overrule the Jags on an event or date. Sure they mange the other dates but why would the Jags care about that. 

[Kerry]

Perhaps, but stadium tours are not very popular these days and usually not in the fall.

That is because the Jags are charging $20/person for the tour, which begs the question, why are the Jags charging $20 a person to tour a building owned by the City?  It should be open to the public like any other civic building.

[acme54321]

I would argue the City would host far more events at the stadium if it wasn't home to an NFL team.  The Jags use it for 9 games a year, but the stadium is unusable for almost any other activity for 5 months.

Like what?  How many events that require a stadium that seats 75k are we turning down?

[Tacachale]

I would argue the City would host far more events at the stadium if it wasn't home to an NFL team.  The Jags use it for 9 games a year, but the stadium is unusable for almost any other activity for 5 months.

Like what?  How many events that require a stadium that seats 75k are we turning down?

Yeah, there aren't a lot of events these days that would need or would a stadium. I doubt there are 9 in one year we could bring in. I also doubt the presence of the Jaguars has much to do with the events not coming to the stadium.

[Adam White]

I would argue the City would host far more events at the stadium if it wasn't home to an NFL team.  The Jags use it for 9 games a year, but the stadium is unusable for almost any other activity for 5 months.

Like what?  How many events that require a stadium that seats 75k are we turning down?

Yeah, there aren't a lot of events these days that would need or would a stadium. I doubt there are 9 in one year we could bring in. I also doubt the presence of the Jaguars has much to do with the events not coming to the stadium.

Yeah - lots of stadiums hold events all year long, regardless. If the Jaguars only use their stadium for nine games, then there should be plenty of opportunity to host other events. I think it probably is more likely the result of Jax not being a large enough or attractive enough market to host those sorts of events.

[tufsu1]

Monster Jam baby!

[Kerry]

They can't tear up the field during the season.  Things like Stadium Cross and Stadium Super Trucks come to mind.

[FlaBoy]

I would argue the City would host far more events at the stadium if it wasn't home to an NFL team.  The Jags use it for 9 games a year, but the stadium is unusable for almost any other activity for 5 months.

You do know this makes absolutely no sense? Could they host a high school lacrosse match on a Saturday or Sunday of a game weekend? GTFO with some of these dumb statements.

[Tacachale]

They can't tear up the field during the season.  Things like Stadium Cross and Stadium Super Trucks come to mind.

I don't know what those are, but do they attract 60k+ people per event? Do they fill the same number of hotel rooms and generate the same level of revenue? If so, are there really 9+ of them out there that we could book to replace the Jags? Come on, man. The idea that a football stadium could get more use without that pesky football team is just silly.

Let's look at sports. In addition to the Jags, we also have two annual college football games. This year, we're also having a Florida State game, which should be big. All three of those things occur during the NFL season. Considering that none of those three teams are likely to add any more events here, and we haven't been able to make the Gator Bowl relevant again - last season it drew only 38k people - it seems unlikely that we'll be able to fill the gap with more football.

We have Monster Jam coming up next month. That should sell out, though tickets start at $15 so it's not comparably to an NFL game. I also doubt it would have that kind of attendance if there were 9 more of them a year.

We also have a Rolling Stones concert, which has sold out and is crazy expensive. However, ain't filling the TIAA Bank calendar with bands. The bands that can - and want to - fill out a stadium are fewer and farther between. Today they stadium shows mostly done by the same handful of big superstars that have been doing it for a million years and have tons of fans. Most others play in arenas or smaller venues.

We've had success with soccer in the past. The USMNT friendlies in 2012 and 2014 drew 44,428 and 52,033.  Both happened with the Jags here. These games happen here once in a blue moon, and that attendance is much smaller than an NFL game. We weren't successful in getting any CONCACAF games.

We could do other things that would draw a big crowd like motocross or wrestling. However, we could do that in the spring. The issue is that there aren't any other events that could fill that stadium as well as the Jags can. And certainly no one-off program would chip in for stadium improvements as the Jags do.

[Kerry]

Maybe you guy are right - if we took away the 9 Jags games we probably couldn't attract 9 other events.  Not sure what I was thinking.

[Steve]

Maybe you guy are right - if we took away the 9 Jags games we probably couldn't attract 9 other events.  Not sure what I was thinking.

Highly doubt it (at least, events that would be worth opening, powering, and staffing the place.

I was curious, so I looked at Metlife Stadium in New York, and Hard Rock Stadium in Miami. Both have under 10 ticketed events between now and the summer (this is excluding things that are around the stadium or events like an autograph signing that happens to be at the stadium).

Admittedly, Football Stadium usage is tough. It's one of the positives of Daily's place since a lot of the infrastructure (restrooms, concessions, etc.) is shared with the stadium.

[Kerry]

Doing some quick research I found a study done by some university professor on this very subject.  Outside of a few venues, stadiums this size have very limited usage although NFL teams are trying to find a way to get more use out of them.  Bottom line, they are just to big for any other use.  Outdoor stadiums in the 10,000 to 30,000 seat range that had the most usage - from graduations to cheerleading camps to high school football championships to rodeos.