Lack of Downtown Development

[bl8jaxnative]

Do folks generally consider Brooklyn to be part of downtown?

[Bill Hoff]

^ no.

[ProjectMaximus]

Do folks generally consider Brooklyn to be part of downtown?

I don't consider it part of downtown when the context is specifying the actual downtown downtown, but many people in Jacksonville who aren't speaking so precisely and refer to downtown in broad/general terms definitely do think of Brooklyn as an extension of downtown.

[RatTownRyan]

From my experience with people at the beach. Downtown includes the actual downtown core, the sports district, Springfield, Lavilla and Brooklyn. They consider Riverside to be Five points through Avondale. And they consider San Marco to be the Southbank to Miramar. I don't know if that is just a beach thing or what. But maybe someone who lives in Avodale says "Im heading down to Jax beach" as a general term but they are actually going north of seagate to Neptune Beach or to Micklers in Ponte Vedra.

[Tacachale]

Do folks generally consider Brooklyn to be part of downtown?

I don't consider it part of downtown when the context is specifying the actual downtown downtown, but many people in Jacksonville who aren't speaking so precisely and refer to downtown in broad/general terms definitely do think of Brooklyn as an extension of downtown.

Yeah, multiple definitions. Brooklyn (and Southbank, Lavilla, and the Stadium District) are part of the Downtown central business district used for zoning and planning. But in many ways, the historic Downtown core is the real downtown, plus or minus a few blocks around it, and those other neighborhoods are peripheral.

[Kerry]

Do folks generally consider Brooklyn to be part of downtown?

It depends on who you are talking to because downtown is a qualitative term.  It might not be part of the Central Business District, but the CBD does not make up the entirety of present day downtown.  When I talk to friends that live in suburban Jax or out of state I tell them I live downtown.  When I talk to other friends that live in what I consider downtown or who have a basic understanding of the parts of downtown Jax I tell them I live in Brooklyn.

[Tacachale]

Do folks generally consider Brooklyn to be part of downtown?

It depends on who you are talking to because downtown is a qualitative term.  It might not be part of the Central Business District, but the CBD does not make up the entirety of present day downtown.  When I talk to friends that live in suburban Jax or out of state I tell them I live downtown.  When I talk to other friends that live in what I consider downtown or who have a basic understanding of the parts of downtown Jax I tell them I live in Brooklyn.

It is part of the CBD. The CBD covers pretty much everything that could be considered Downtown: the core, Lavilla, Brooklyn, Southbank, and the sports complex.

[Kerry]

As a Brooklyn resident, I don't consider myself to live in the CBD, at least no as defined in the New Urbanism definition of it.  A district is an area with a high percentage of a single use.  Brooklyn by itself is a neighborhood.  We haveca park, restaurants open past 3pm, office employers but also a very healthy dose of blue collar jobs.  I also consider the Booklyn skyline to be seperate from the Northbank, Southbank, and Riverside skylines.

[Tacachale]

As a Brooklyn resident, I don't consider myself to live in the CBD, at least no as defined in the New Urbanism definition of it.  A district is an area with a high percentage of a single use.  Brooklyn by itself is a neighborhood.  We haveca park, restaurants open past 3pm, office employers but also a very healthy dose of blue collar jobs.  I also consider the Booklyn skyline to be seperate from the Northbank, Southbank, and Riverside skylines.

It's the CBD as defined by, well, being in the city's official CBD. It's really just used for zoning and planning purposes. As other folks have said, many would consider only the downtown core to be our "Downtown".