RFP Proposed for Convention Center

Started by KenFSU, January 16, 2018, 02:18:30 PM

KenFSU


BenderRodriguez

Quote from: KenFSU on January 16, 2018, 02:18:30 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 10, 2018, 09:44:21 AM
^I think we're going to see Convention Center talk pick up considerably, starting today.

A couple days later than I thought, but:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-to-seek-proposals-for-downtown-riverfront-convention-center

200,000ft2 and 45 breakouts should put us smack dab in the, very competitive, medium size market. A Market I think JAX can do very well in. Especially with a sizable hotel thrown in the mix, and with the Hyatt two blocks away. I foresee a very healthy and expanded future in our convention market. Even with the the Prime Osborne currently putting up good numbers.

FlaBoy

Quote from: KenFSU on January 16, 2018, 02:18:30 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 10, 2018, 09:44:21 AM
^I think we're going to see Convention Center talk pick up considerably, starting today.

A couple days later than I thought, but:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-to-seek-proposals-for-downtown-riverfront-convention-center

We will see if your prediction of Khan getting involved with a hotel here, rather than by the stadium with the additional hindrances like Hart removal, plays out. Would it surprise anyone if Bold Events ends up running a new convention center with the Amphitheater for event more additional space for large conventions?

Steve

NOTE: I split this Convention Center RFP Discussion off from the Hourglass Pub discussion.

Steve

KenFSU

Quote from: Steve on January 16, 2018, 03:42:10 PM
NOTE: I split this Convention Center RFP Discussion off from the Hourglass Pub discussion.

Steve

You're not allowed to split off a thread without making a disparaging remark about the intellect of the last person to make a comment.

House rules, Steve :D

FlaBoy

Quote from: KenFSU on January 16, 2018, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: Steve on January 16, 2018, 03:42:10 PM
NOTE: I split this Convention Center RFP Discussion off from the Hourglass Pub discussion.

Steve

You're not allowed to split off a thread without making a disparaging remark about the intellect of the last person to make a comment.

House rules, Steve :D

LOL.   ??? 8)

KenFSU

Quote from: FlaBoy on January 16, 2018, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 16, 2018, 02:18:30 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 10, 2018, 09:44:21 AM
^I think we're going to see Convention Center talk pick up considerably, starting today.

A couple days later than I thought, but:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-to-seek-proposals-for-downtown-riverfront-convention-center

We will see if your prediction of Khan getting involved with a hotel here, rather than by the stadium with the additional hindrances like Hart removal, plays out. Would it surprise anyone if Bold Events ends up running a new convention center with the Amphitheater for event more additional space for large conventions?

Would certainly fit with Khan and Lamping's tendency to grow impatient and piecemeal aspects of their Shipyards plan to other areas of downtown.

What's described in the RFP basically matches what was in their both their original and latest Shipyards proposal (parking garage, waterfront hotel, exhibition space, meeting rooms), but with more exhibition space. I know Khan wants a five-star hotel, possibly a Four Seasons, but Metro Park (or anywhere else on Shipyards property) isn't going to be shovel-ready for years to come.



Also wouldn't be surprised at all to see Khan make a major push in the offseason leading up to the annual State of the Franchise for the Cordish development as well, particularly with Jags business just exploding in the last month.

How it all gets paid for, that's a much bigger question.

acme54321

Quote from: KenFSU on January 16, 2018, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: FlaBoy on January 16, 2018, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 16, 2018, 02:18:30 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 10, 2018, 09:44:21 AM
^I think we're going to see Convention Center talk pick up considerably, starting today.

A couple days later than I thought, but:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-to-seek-proposals-for-downtown-riverfront-convention-center

We will see if your prediction of Khan getting involved with a hotel here, rather than by the stadium with the additional hindrances like Hart removal, plays out. Would it surprise anyone if Bold Events ends up running a new convention center with the Amphitheater for event more additional space for large conventions?

Would certainly fit with Khan and Lamping's tendency to grow impatient and piecemeal aspects of their Shipyards plan to other areas of downtown.

What's described in the RFP basically matches what was in their both their original and latest Shipyards proposal (parking garage, waterfront hotel, exhibition space, meeting rooms), but with more exhibition space. I know Khan wants a five-star hotel, possibly a Four Seasons, but Metro Park (or anywhere else on Shipyards property) isn't going to be shovel-ready for years to come.



Also wouldn't be surprised at all to see Khan make a major push in the offseason leading up to the annual State of the Franchise for the Cordish development as well, particularly with Jags business just exploding in the last month.

How it all gets paid for, that's a much bigger question.

Do you not think this site would be much better suited for a convention center than way out by the stadium?  We already have a convention center on the edge of downtown.

FlaBoy

Quote from: KenFSU on January 16, 2018, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: FlaBoy on January 16, 2018, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 16, 2018, 02:18:30 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 10, 2018, 09:44:21 AM
^I think we're going to see Convention Center talk pick up considerably, starting today.

A couple days later than I thought, but:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-to-seek-proposals-for-downtown-riverfront-convention-center

We will see if your prediction of Khan getting involved with a hotel here, rather than by the stadium with the additional hindrances like Hart removal, plays out. Would it surprise anyone if Bold Events ends up running a new convention center with the Amphitheater for event more additional space for large conventions?

Would certainly fit with Khan and Lamping's tendency to grow impatient and piecemeal aspects of their Shipyards plan to other areas of downtown.

What's described in the RFP basically matches what was in their both their original and latest Shipyards proposal (parking garage, waterfront hotel, exhibition space, meeting rooms), but with more exhibition space. I know Khan wants a five-star hotel, possibly a Four Seasons, but Metro Park (or anywhere else on Shipyards property) isn't going to be shovel-ready for years to come.



Also wouldn't be surprised at all to see Khan make a major push in the offseason leading up to the annual State of the Franchise for the Cordish development as well, particularly with Jags business just exploding in the last month.

How it all gets paid for, that's a much bigger question.

What ever came of the Cordish discussions after the Mayor's trip? That is the area along Bay but east of where they want to move the park, correct? Wouldn't that require the Hart coming down and remediation? Or do you see them trying to move that further west as well?

Tacachale

Quote from: FlaBoy on January 16, 2018, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 16, 2018, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: FlaBoy on January 16, 2018, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 16, 2018, 02:18:30 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 10, 2018, 09:44:21 AM
^I think we're going to see Convention Center talk pick up considerably, starting today.

A couple days later than I thought, but:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-to-seek-proposals-for-downtown-riverfront-convention-center

We will see if your prediction of Khan getting involved with a hotel here, rather than by the stadium with the additional hindrances like Hart removal, plays out. Would it surprise anyone if Bold Events ends up running a new convention center with the Amphitheater for event more additional space for large conventions?

Would certainly fit with Khan and Lamping's tendency to grow impatient and piecemeal aspects of their Shipyards plan to other areas of downtown.

What's described in the RFP basically matches what was in their both their original and latest Shipyards proposal (parking garage, waterfront hotel, exhibition space, meeting rooms), but with more exhibition space. I know Khan wants a five-star hotel, possibly a Four Seasons, but Metro Park (or anywhere else on Shipyards property) isn't going to be shovel-ready for years to come.



Also wouldn't be surprised at all to see Khan make a major push in the offseason leading up to the annual State of the Franchise for the Cordish development as well, particularly with Jags business just exploding in the last month.

How it all gets paid for, that's a much bigger question.

What ever came of the Cordish discussions after the Mayor's trip? That is the area along Bay but east of where they want to move the park, correct? Wouldn't that require the Hart coming down and remediation? Or do you see them trying to move that further west as well?

Hints have been dropped, but both the mayor and the Jags are playing it pretty close to the chest.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

FlaBoy

Quote from: Tacachale on January 16, 2018, 04:46:40 PM
Quote from: FlaBoy on January 16, 2018, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 16, 2018, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: FlaBoy on January 16, 2018, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 16, 2018, 02:18:30 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 10, 2018, 09:44:21 AM
^I think we're going to see Convention Center talk pick up considerably, starting today.

A couple days later than I thought, but:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-to-seek-proposals-for-downtown-riverfront-convention-center

We will see if your prediction of Khan getting involved with a hotel here, rather than by the stadium with the additional hindrances like Hart removal, plays out. Would it surprise anyone if Bold Events ends up running a new convention center with the Amphitheater for event more additional space for large conventions?

Would certainly fit with Khan and Lamping's tendency to grow impatient and piecemeal aspects of their Shipyards plan to other areas of downtown.

What's described in the RFP basically matches what was in their both their original and latest Shipyards proposal (parking garage, waterfront hotel, exhibition space, meeting rooms), but with more exhibition space. I know Khan wants a five-star hotel, possibly a Four Seasons, but Metro Park (or anywhere else on Shipyards property) isn't going to be shovel-ready for years to come.



Also wouldn't be surprised at all to see Khan make a major push in the offseason leading up to the annual State of the Franchise for the Cordish development as well, particularly with Jags business just exploding in the last month.

How it all gets paid for, that's a much bigger question.

What ever came of the Cordish discussions after the Mayor's trip? That is the area along Bay but east of where they want to move the park, correct? Wouldn't that require the Hart coming down and remediation? Or do you see them trying to move that further west as well?

Hints have been dropped, but both the mayor and the Jags are playing it pretty close to the chest.

This is where the Skyway expansion becomes a big deal because I imagine the Jags would like to have a way to easily bridge the mile between this site and the Amphitheater/Stadium. They need dedicated transit. Maybe even using the remaining portion of the Hart Expressway...It is starting to get really interesting. There is a lot of potential here for a unique convention experience if done right.

Todd_Parker

Will be interesting to see how a new convention center will tie in to Amazon's new downtown headquarters/compound.

FlaBoy

Quote from: Todd_Parker on January 16, 2018, 04:54:53 PM
Will be interesting to see how a new convention center will tie in to Amazon's new downtown headquarters/compound.

??? ???

KenFSU

Quote from: FlaBoy on January 16, 2018, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 16, 2018, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: FlaBoy on January 16, 2018, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 16, 2018, 02:18:30 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 10, 2018, 09:44:21 AM
^I think we're going to see Convention Center talk pick up considerably, starting today.

A couple days later than I thought, but:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-to-seek-proposals-for-downtown-riverfront-convention-center

We will see if your prediction of Khan getting involved with a hotel here, rather than by the stadium with the additional hindrances like Hart removal, plays out. Would it surprise anyone if Bold Events ends up running a new convention center with the Amphitheater for event more additional space for large conventions?

Would certainly fit with Khan and Lamping's tendency to grow impatient and piecemeal aspects of their Shipyards plan to other areas of downtown.

What's described in the RFP basically matches what was in their both their original and latest Shipyards proposal (parking garage, waterfront hotel, exhibition space, meeting rooms), but with more exhibition space. I know Khan wants a five-star hotel, possibly a Four Seasons, but Metro Park (or anywhere else on Shipyards property) isn't going to be shovel-ready for years to come.



Also wouldn't be surprised at all to see Khan make a major push in the offseason leading up to the annual State of the Franchise for the Cordish development as well, particularly with Jags business just exploding in the last month.

How it all gets paid for, that's a much bigger question.

What ever came of the Cordish discussions after the Mayor's trip? That is the area along Bay but east of where they want to move the park, correct? Wouldn't that require the Hart coming down and remediation? Or do you see them trying to move that further west as well?

It'd be on the other side of the Hart Bridge ramps. Between Everbank and the Baseball Grounds, over existing parking.

MusicMan

Rip Van Winkle will wake before any of this stuff is complete. Under no circumstance should you hold your breath.

Shipyards not clean, no plan in place for that.

Berkman II waiting for the earth to swallow it up. 

Rummell taking over 1000 days to close on a vacant lot.  And still may not.

A sincere cluster f#ck.