Mayor Curry, top staffer take trip on Jaguars owner Shad Khan’s jet to talk DT

[KenFSU]

It's also worth noting that Ballpark Village is one block away from City Garden and the core of downtown St. Louis. In other words, it's supported by a lot more than just baseball. It's also a Cordish development and pretty much the same thing you'll find from Cordish in Downtown Louisville and a host of other cities. If that's what's Lamping is envisioning, it's basically a modern spin on what the Landing should have probably been.

Doing a little Googling, I think there might be some smoke to the Cordish fire. So Khan and Curry took a sightseeing field trip to St. Louis, Baltimore, and Kansas City this week, presumably to talk about Shipyards development.

Mark Lamping, who was also along for the trip, led the Ballpark Village project in St. Louis, which was developed by Cordish. And if you look at Cordish's portfolio page (http://cordish.com/portfolio), the two most similar developments to Ballpark Village are Power Plant Live (in Baltimore) and Power & Light District (in Kansas City).

Coincidence? Maybe.

What's interesting is that a development like this would make the Landing in its current state somewhat superfluous. What's even more interesting is that I could see the city, Curry in particularly, championing it partially out of spite for Sleiman.

Ballpark Village is pictured above, here are some pics of the other two developments.

Power Plant Live (Baltimore Inner Harbor):




Power & Light District (Kansas City):

[thelakelander]

Doing a little Googling, I think there might be some smoke to the Cordish fire. So Khan and Curry took a sightseeing field trip to St. Louis, Baltimore, and Kansas City this week, presumably to talk about Shipyards development.

Mark Lamping, who was also along for the trip, led the Ballpark Village project in St. Louis, which was developed by Cordish. And if you look at Cordish's portfolio page (http://cordish.com/portfolio), the two most similar developments to Ballpark Village are Power Plant Live (in Baltimore) and Power & Light District (in Kansas City).

Coincidence? Maybe.

I'm familiar with most of the Cordish Live! developments. All three of these have the benefit from not being a mile from downtown. Baltimore and Kansas City moreso than St. Louis, but only because Ballpark Live sits in the middle of a big surface parking lot. XFINITY Live! in Philly is probably more applicable.

What's interesting is that a development like this would make the Landing in its current state somewhat superfluous. What's even more interesting is that I could see the city, Curry in particularly, championing it partially out of spite for Sleiman.

Sleiman can still have great impact on what the Landing can be. Both Baltimore and St. Louis have Cordish Live! developments are not too far away from former Rouse marketplaces. In Baltimore, they pretty much co-exist. However, Harborplace is in the process of transitioning to more of a food hall, while Power Plant Live! is anchored with destination restaurants.  In St. Louis, Union Station (their old Rouse marketplace) looked just as bad as the Landing. The old grand lobby of the train station had been renovated into a pretty cool Marriott but the old train shed mall had seen better days.

Ultimately, running the Landing like a shopping center makes sense on multiple levels, as opposed to Sleiman waiting for the day Curry starts working with him. The early bird catches the worm. He's got a structurally building that's located in the heart of the Northbank. There's a potential market for uses in that location that can cater to things EverBank Field can't, due to the built density around it.  So they may be able to complement each other, like the Baltimore example.

Then there's also this thing called economic cycles. The economy has been good for a while now. History has proven it won't keep buzzing for eternity. At this point, the Shipyards is still a dream that most likely won't be fully built before the next down cycle rolls in. So the ball is still bouncing in Sleiman's court, for a chance at turning the Landing around.

[vicupstate]

Cordish did Norfolk's Waterside district too. Surprised that hasn't been mentioned

[thelakelander]

I mentioned it a few weeks back in one of my monthly Times Union editorials:

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/columnists/2017-06-27/guest-column-common-sense-approach-reviving-jacksonville-landing

That's another example of a retail complex, like the Landing, finding a complementing use to a larger/newer retail structure a few blocks away. There's nothing from stopping Sleiman from doing something like Cordish's revamp of Waterside now, as opposed to sitting and waiting for another project to materialize and capture the current trends of whatever the market can support.

[Captain Zissou]

If the Jags put a Cordish development next to the 4 Points/amphitheatre, I'd love to see the landing turned into something like the Washington Harbour. https://www.thewashingtonharbour.com/

[Papa33]

What is 4 Points?  Are you referring to the hotel brand?

[Keith-N-Jax]

Well this will be interesting, I only hope for the best and success to what ever is decided.