Donald Trump has fired FBI's Director James Comey

Started by Cheshire Cat, May 09, 2017, 06:16:00 PM

RattlerGator

Democrats will be greatly disappointed once they expand beyond their bubble. Quote all the UniParty members from the GOP establishment you like, they aren't driving the train.

Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein made this recommendation. The AG and the President merely accepted it.

There obviously *is* no real investigation into any Trump - Russia collusion because there quite obviously IS NONE. They've been desperately looking for some bogus nugget they could plausibly push as collusion and can't find any. Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, and the Obama Administration co-opted James Comey, made him blink and ultimately cover himself in shame by engaging in a sham investigation of Hillary Clinton, signing off on bogus FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign, and subsequently faking a Russia investigation to give cover for the leakers and unmaskers (Oh, Senator, I can't comment on that because it's classified; On, Senator, that's part of an ogoing investigation so I can't comment), but that jig is up. Tim to pay the piper. Your too clever by half chick Sally Yates better go lawyer up because she is in deep, deep trouble. Her ass is quite likely going to prison. I hope all that showboating was worth it, Sally.

A real investigation into Russian advanced steps to further their meddling in all things American might cover sumpin sumpin like this:

http://jmichaelwaller.com/2017/05/03/13-reasons-why-the-russia-probes-must-be-expanded/

so keep talking that yang, Diane. You may soon get your wish. But understand this, ain't no real Republican scared of any freaking Russian investigation. Democrats? Mega-skeered. And they damn well should be.

icarus

Listen, the investigation into Trump-Russia connections will continue even though Democrats and Republicans alike in the House and Senate have acknowledged no proof to date of any such connection or collusion. Flynn  will be facing charges more than likely for perjuring himself if anything else.

The FBI has been politicized by appointments made by the previous administrations and the Bureau has no chance to recover in the eyes of the public while Comey is at the helm.

I am actually more concerned about the nominee and am hoping for a well credentialed individual with integrity to lead the Bureau back to what it should be .... an independent law enforcement agency.

Jim

Quote from: spuwho on May 10, 2017, 11:16:02 AM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on May 09, 2017, 09:40:16 PM

Former speechwriter to President George W. Bush, David Frum, says this smells like a "coup" to impend any investigations into Trump. Anyone Trump appoints to the F.B.I will be in his back pocket, and no one at the Justice Department is going to be able to distance themselves from the White House.http://news.groopspeak.com/how-trump-fired-fbi-director-comey-gets-leaked-its-deeply-troubling-and-disgraceful/

Comey already told Trump he is not the focus of the Russia investigation. So everyone making those connections is a false narrative.
Focus?  Perhaps not.  Involved?  Yes.

JHAT76

Quote from: RattlerGator on May 10, 2017, 12:13:59 PM
Democrats will be greatly disappointed once they expand beyond their bubble. Quote all the UniParty members from the GOP establishment you like, they aren't driving the train.

Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein made this recommendation. The AG and the President merely accepted it.

There obviously *is* no real investigation into any Trump - Russia collusion because there quite obviously IS NONE. They've been desperately looking for some bogus nugget they could plausibly push as collusion and can't find any. Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, and the Obama Administration co-opted James Comey, made him blink and ultimately cover himself in shame by engaging in a sham investigation of Hillary Clinton, signing off on bogus FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign, and subsequently faking a Russia investigation to give cover for the leakers and unmaskers (Oh, Senator, I can't comment on that because it's classified; On, Senator, that's part of an ogoing investigation so I can't comment), but that jig is up. Tim to pay the piper. Your too clever by half chick Sally Yates better go lawyer up because she is in deep, deep trouble. Her ass is quite likely going to prison. I hope all that showboating was worth it, Sally.

A real investigation into Russian advanced steps to further their meddling in all things American might cover sumpin sumpin like this:

http://jmichaelwaller.com/2017/05/03/13-reasons-why-the-russia-probes-must-be-expanded/

so keep talking that yang, Diane. You may soon get your wish. But understand this, ain't no real Republican scared of any freaking Russian investigation. Democrats? Mega-skeered. And they damn well should be.

Really found a well respected / neutral source there I see: J. Michael Waller is a neoconservative academic and political commentator based at the Center for Security Policy.

spuwho

Interesting that Clapper testified that there was no evidence supporting any collaboration with Russia.

Yet yesterday Comey asked to increase the funding to broaden his investigation.

Who did Comey submit his request to? The Deputy AG who just happen to be writing his recommendation to terminate him.

So if what Clapper said was true, why did Comey need to broaden his investigation?

MusicMan

Once again RattlerGator combines diarrhea of the mouth with diarrhea of the brain for an utterly ridiculous word salad of BS.

I do like your "consistency" however.

You should offer your services to the Trump Admin. Like most of his inner circle your lack of knowledge or experience will 'prolly' get you hired.

Adam White

I would suggest that none of us knows what evidence the FBI (and others) have in this case and what the scope of their investigations is. And I would be worried if we did know that sort of stuff.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

spuwho

Quote from: Adam White on May 10, 2017, 03:34:38 PM
I would suggest that none of us knows what evidence the FBI (and others) have in this case and what the scope of their investigations is. And I would be worried if we did know that sort of stuff.

I guess I will read the leaked version in the NYT or WP. Either way its going to get out there.

My supposition is that there have been some paid solicitations by Russian entities to curry favor for a sanctions change. Some targeting some people attempting to align with Trump.

Obama couldnt be bought, Hilz took the dough and ignored them anyway. So now the FBI is following the money. Thinking Flynn, Manafort and a few others.

Cheshire Cat

Quote from: Adam White on May 10, 2017, 11:53:07 AM
Quote from: spuwho on May 10, 2017, 11:16:02 AM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on May 09, 2017, 09:40:16 PM

Former speechwriter to President George W. Bush, David Frum, says this smells like a "coup" to impend any investigations into Trump. Anyone Trump appoints to the F.B.I will be in his back pocket, and no one at the Justice Department is going to be able to distance themselves from the White House.http://news.groopspeak.com/how-trump-fired-fbi-director-comey-gets-leaked-its-deeply-troubling-and-disgraceful/

Comey already told Trump he is not the focus of the Russia investigation. So everyone making those connections is a false narrative.

According to Trump. But as an investigator, I can tell you that the focus of an investigation can change at the drop of a hat, based on the evidence that you uncover. And you should never, ever focus solely on one theory.
Exactly and as an investigator I am sure you like me expect that Trump's name will have been "unmasked" by the ongoing investigations that have foreign operators as their targets.
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

Cheshire Cat

Meanwhile, a Senate panel looking into Trump's connections to Russia has issued and invitation to Comey to testify before them.


The bipartisan invitation was from Chairman Richard Burr (R-N.C.) and top Democrat Mark Warner of Virginia, and it comes as GOP leaders are struggling to keep the Senate's Russia investigation contained within the secretive intelligence panel.
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

Cheshire Cat

#25
Just an FYI reminder.  The current FBI investigation began in July of last year, while Trump was running for office.  It is very likely that there is information connecting him to Russia as a private citizen. I would bet money on it.   If that is the case and they pull information from that time period it would seem that Trump would not have any protection for those actions under the shelter of the oval office.
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

Cheshire Cat

#26
There are actually four congressional committees investigating Trump's connections to Russia.  Heading one of the House Committees  is Republican Lindsey Graham who has now gone on record saying he want's an investigation into Trump's business dealings.  Trump's response was to lawyer up with private attorneys to thwart the effort, one sending a letter to Graham that basically tried to persuade him there is nothing to see in those records.  Publicly the WH had Spicer make a public statement saying they would cooperate with investigations. 

To learn more about the other committees, click this link:  http://www.voanews.com/a/congress-committees-investigating-trump-russia-ties/3771636.html

Diane Melendez
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Adam White

Quote from: Cheshire Cat on May 10, 2017, 04:09:08 PM
Quote from: Adam White on May 10, 2017, 11:53:07 AM
Quote from: spuwho on May 10, 2017, 11:16:02 AM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on May 09, 2017, 09:40:16 PM

Former speechwriter to President George W. Bush, David Frum, says this smells like a "coup" to impend any investigations into Trump. Anyone Trump appoints to the F.B.I will be in his back pocket, and no one at the Justice Department is going to be able to distance themselves from the White House.http://news.groopspeak.com/how-trump-fired-fbi-director-comey-gets-leaked-its-deeply-troubling-and-disgraceful/

Comey already told Trump he is not the focus of the Russia investigation. So everyone making those connections is a false narrative.

According to Trump. But as an investigator, I can tell you that the focus of an investigation can change at the drop of a hat, based on the evidence that you uncover. And you should never, ever focus solely on one theory.
Exactly and as an investigator I am sure you like me expect that Trump's name will have been "unmasked" by the ongoing investigations that have foreign operators as their targets.

I don't expect anything. I will just wait and see what happens. I think everyone is being ridiculous.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

Cheshire Cat

#28
Quote from: spuwho on May 10, 2017, 02:30:14 PM
Interesting that Clapper testified that there was no evidence supporting any collaboration with Russia.

Yet yesterday Comey asked to increase the funding to broaden his investigation.

Who did Comey submit his request to? The Deputy AG who just happen to be writing his recommendation to terminate him.

So if what Clapper said was true, why did Comey need to broaden his investigation?
I watched the entire hearing before the The House Oversight Committee.  What Clapper testified to was that "during" the DOJ investigation after his departure, he had seen no evidence of collusion but repeatedly stated that he no longer has access to any of the ongoing information gathering.  He and Yates both made it clear that what they had seen did not include the findings of the separate FBI investigation that has yet to make a determination about collusion. They did say repeatedly that it was clear Flynn was deeply involved with the Russians and lied about that involvement and that the WH had been appraised of this.  In spite of that knowledge, the WH not only kept Flynn in office for 18 more days, they had him in on a private phone conversation with Trump and Putin.  Keep in mind that  the FBI investigation not only looks for the proof but is the only investigative body looking into this that can bring charges and make arrests.  Subpoena's for a Grand Jury have already gone out.  That doesn't happen unless their is some meaningfull information and proof.
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

Cheshire Cat

At this point it is imperative that we have an independent special prosecutor assigned to this probe.  That is the only way to restore any kind of faith into the probe and the process.  There are currently three ways that can happen. 

The Justice Department can appoint a special council
Congress can pass legislation approving a special council
Congress can form a special committee

To learn more click the link below.


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/here-are-three-ways-have-independent-russia-inquiry-n757426
Diane Melendez
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