Bill O'Reilly out at Fox

[Adam White]

O'Reilly's a bad guy. He's an old school predator and it appears there was a culture of that in the organization's higher ranks - sadly this was the norm in the media and entertainment industries for a long time. But it seems like we've finally gotten to the point where the public no longer overlooks it like we used to. At least in some cases.

There are so many police investigations into historic sex abuse in the UK - particularly at the BBC. Apparently it was rife. I think news is about to break about a 70s and 80s pop star who is being accused. No idea who he is yet, though.

[I-10east]

I'm not impressed with Sheppard Smith at all. If you like biased super leftist neo-liberal thought, he's the man I'll give him that. The same guy when The Louisiana governor was trying to bring the community together after police were ambushed in a shooting said '"All lives matter is derogatory"scolding the governor very inappropriately. That same guy that stuck up for CNN with their Orwellianism when Trump called them fake news; just for the sake of hating Trump of course; if a person he liked said it, it's all good.... I could go on and on.

[Adam White]

I'm not impressed with Sheppard Smith at all. If you like biased super leftist neo-liberal thought, he's the man I'll give him that. The same guy when The Louisiana governor was trying to bring the community together after police were ambushed in a shooting said '"All lives matter is derogatory"scolding the governor very inappropriately. That same guy that stuck up for CNN with their Orwellianism when Trump called them fake news; just for the sake of hating Trump of course; if a person he liked said it, it's all good.... I could go on and on.

"Super leftist" and "neoliberal" are mutually exclusive terms. I think you might not know what "neoliberal" means. For example, Ronald Reagan was a neoliberal. True story.

[spuwho]

Internal Memo sent to all Fox employees.

Per Associated Press:

NEW YORK (AP) — The following internal memo was sent to Fox News Channel employees on Wednesday:

"We'd like to address questions about Bill O'Reilly's future at Fox News. After a thorough and careful review of allegations against him, the Company and Bill O'Reilly have agreed that Mr. O'Reilly will not return to the Fox News Channel.

This decision follows an extensive review done in collaboration with outside counsel.

By ratings standards, Bill O'Reilly is one of the most accomplished TV personalities in the history of cable news. In fact, his success by any measure is indisputable. Fox News has demonstrated again and again the strength of its talent bench. We have full confidence that the network will continue to be a powerhouse in cable news.

Lastly, and most importantly, we want to underscore our consistent commitment to fostering a work environment built on the values of trust and respect.

Best,

Rupert, Lachlan, James

[I-10east]

"Super leftist" and "neoliberal" are mutually exclusive terms. I think you might not know what "neoliberal" means. For example, Ronald Reagan was a neoliberal. True story.

Okay you are probably right, it seems like this is a game of semantics though. For instance many on the left say that liberals cannot be fascist when that is BS (most people that are fascist are right wingers though). Authoritarianism is a big part of fascism, and I cannot think of anything more authoritarian than forcing Christian bakers to go against their beliefs (no matter if you disagree with them) and make gay wedding cakes. Modern authoritarianism has mostly been a left thing (even worser in Eastern Europe where it's basically 1984; thought police, cannot defend yourself against intruders etc).   

[Adam White]

"Super leftist" and "neoliberal" are mutually exclusive terms. I think you might not know what "neoliberal" means. For example, Ronald Reagan was a neoliberal. True story.

Okay you are probably right, it seems like this is a game of semantics though. For instance many on the left say that liberals cannot be fascist when that is BS (most people that are fascist are right wingers though). Authoritarianism is a big part of fascism, and I cannot think of anything more authoritarian than forcing Christian bakers to go against their beliefs (no matter if you disagree with them) and make gay wedding cakes. Modern authoritarianism has mostly been a left thing (even worser in Eastern Europe where it's basically 1984; thought police, cannot defend yourself against intruders etc).   

Well, it is semantics as it is about the meaning of words. And neo-liberalism refers to a particular economic approach that has been pursued by politicians of all stripes since at least the 80s: Reagan, Thatcher, Clinton, Bush, Obama, etc. That's not to say there aren't variations here and there, of course. Clinton's shift to the right and embrace of neo-liberalism (as embodied by the DLC) is what got him elected. And it's what got Blair elected in 1997. In fact, pretty much every social democratic party in Europe has rejected Keynesianism and embraced neo-liberalism.

Super-leftist would be (IMO) Marxists and their ilk. But, given the fact that the center of American politics lies much, much farther to the right, I'd totally understand how a moderate social democrat like Bernie Sanders could appear to be super-left wing. But, as far as I can tell, he is quite critical of neo-liberalism.

[Jim]

I'm not impressed with Sheppard Smith at all. If you like biased super leftist neo-liberal thought, he's the man I'll give him that. The same guy when The Louisiana governor was trying to bring the community together after police were ambushed in a shooting said '"All lives matter is derogatory"scolding the governor very inappropriately. That same guy that stuck up for CNN with their Orwellianism when Trump called them fake news; just for the sake of hating Trump of course; if a person he liked said it, it's all good.... I could go on and on.

So you don't like him because he's the fair and balanced bit of Fox they always talk about?

[spuwho]

Salon was reporting that while O'Reilly departed early in his contract, it would have been his last contract.

While Big Bill was 67 years old, his median audience was 72 years old. To renew him would have been silly they said because by the time Trump's term ends half his audience would be essentially "dead".

The only holdout to keeping him was the old man Rupert (86 years old) and he was getting pressure to facilitate his buy out of SkyTV.

He was signing off on the settlements cause he was making lots of dough off Bill. Either way, Bill's retirement was coming due and the women merely accelerated the schedule.

Now he can go back and have people write books for him and do the talk show circuit hawking them.

[Cheshire Cat]

He apparently will begin a podcast Monday.  Since most of his followers are 72 my guess is that not many of them will even know what a podcast is, much less how to tune into one. 

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/bill-o-reilly-return-podcast-monday-153801115.html

[NotNow]

"Super leftist" and "neoliberal" are mutually exclusive terms. I think you might not know what "neoliberal" means. For example, Ronald Reagan was a neoliberal. True story.

Okay you are probably right, it seems like this is a game of semantics though. For instance many on the left say that liberals cannot be fascist when that is BS (most people that are fascist are right wingers though). Authoritarianism is a big part of fascism, and I cannot think of anything more authoritarian than forcing Christian bakers to go against their beliefs (no matter if you disagree with them) and make gay wedding cakes. Modern authoritarianism has mostly been a left thing (even worser in Eastern Europe where it's basically 1984; thought police, cannot defend yourself against intruders etc).   

Well, it is semantics as it is about the meaning of words. And neo-liberalism refers to a particular economic approach that has been pursued by politicians of all stripes since at least the 80s: Reagan, Thatcher, Clinton, Bush, Obama, etc. That's not to say there aren't variations here and there, of course. Clinton's shift to the right and embrace of neo-liberalism (as embodied by the DLC) is what got him elected. And it's what got Blair elected in 1997. In fact, pretty much every social democratic party in Europe has rejected Keynesianism and embraced neo-liberalism.

Super-leftist would be (IMO) Marxists and their ilk. But, given the fact that the center of American politics lies much, much farther to the right, I'd totally understand how a moderate social democrat like Bernie Sanders could appear to be super-left wing. But, as far as I can tell, he is quite critical of neo-liberalism.

They sure haven't rejected the printing money and making more public debt part of "Keynesianism".

[Adam White]

"Super leftist" and "neoliberal" are mutually exclusive terms. I think you might not know what "neoliberal" means. For example, Ronald Reagan was a neoliberal. True story.

Okay you are probably right, it seems like this is a game of semantics though. For instance many on the left say that liberals cannot be fascist when that is BS (most people that are fascist are right wingers though). Authoritarianism is a big part of fascism, and I cannot think of anything more authoritarian than forcing Christian bakers to go against their beliefs (no matter if you disagree with them) and make gay wedding cakes. Modern authoritarianism has mostly been a left thing (even worser in Eastern Europe where it's basically 1984; thought police, cannot defend yourself against intruders etc).   

Well, it is semantics as it is about the meaning of words. And neo-liberalism refers to a particular economic approach that has been pursued by politicians of all stripes since at least the 80s: Reagan, Thatcher, Clinton, Bush, Obama, etc. That's not to say there aren't variations here and there, of course. Clinton's shift to the right and embrace of neo-liberalism (as embodied by the DLC) is what got him elected. And it's what got Blair elected in 1997. In fact, pretty much every social democratic party in Europe has rejected Keynesianism and embraced neo-liberalism.

Super-leftist would be (IMO) Marxists and their ilk. But, given the fact that the center of American politics lies much, much farther to the right, I'd totally understand how a moderate social democrat like Bernie Sanders could appear to be super-left wing. But, as far as I can tell, he is quite critical of neo-liberalism.

They sure haven't rejected the printing money and making more public debt part of "Keynesianism".

Perhaps, though that has been a feature of all US Presidential administrations, regardless (in fact, that's a feature of neoliberalism).

And they've all rejected the welfare state, deregulated industry and privatized essential public services.

[NotNow]

No, it is Keynesian.  "Neo-liberalism" seems to mean a lot of things to different people.  And I don't think Obama rejected the welfare state or deregulated industry.

But then, I don't think that Bernie Sanders is a "moderate social democrat" either. 

[Adam White]

No, it is Keynesian.  "Neo-liberalism" seems to mean a lot of things to different people.  And I don't think Obama rejected the welfare state or deregulated industry.

But then, I don't think that Bernie Sanders is a "moderate social democrat" either.

Just because something is a feature of Keynesian economics doesn't mean it can't be shared by other ideologies.

You don't think Obama rejected the welfare state? Just take a look at the ACA. A private solution to a public need. There has been a creeping privatization of public services for decades, regardless who is in power.

As far as Sanders is concerned - there are people out there who don't think the world is round, either. Noam Chomsky (an actual socialist) calls him a New Dealer.

[NotNow]

Cute.  And you believe that the ACA is a private solution?  Really?  That is not what I call government control of private business.

I can see the confusion on Sanders.  Let's just leave the socialist label on him and skip the back and forth. 

[remc86007]

^The ACA primarily regulates the private sector, therefore it is a private solution. If the ACA primarily provided healthcare or insurance, it would be a public solution.

Just because something is regulated doesn't mean it is "public." The use of your car is regulated, but you likely wouldn't refer to it as public transit.