Jacksonville's next Superbowl !!!

[thelakelander]

I don't know, guys. I worked at a Downtown bar — granted, one that wasn't exactly in walking distance from the Stadium — and people from Philly were walking in dumbfounded, like, "What the f*** is there to do around here?" I was a little bit embarrassed. On Super Bowl Sunday the westside of downtown was a ghost town. I swear. I saw tumbleweeds.
I think we have a lot of improvements to make and a lot more downtown development to do (The Landing is a joke at this point) before we can think about hosting another Super Bowl. I hope we work toward that though and I hope it benefits the people who will continue to develop the urban core.

This is pretty much what I heard from out of town visitors.  Imo, we have a lot of work to do if we really want to be in a permanent rotation.

[Coolyfett]

I don't know, guys. I worked at a Downtown bar â€" granted, one that wasn't exactly in walking distance from the Stadium â€" and people from Philly were walking in dumbfounded, like, "What the f*** is there to do around here?" I was a little bit embarrassed. On Super Bowl Sunday the westside of downtown was a ghost town. I swear. I saw tumbleweeds.
I think we have a lot of improvements to make and a lot more downtown development to do (The Landing is a joke at this point) before we can think about hosting another Super Bowl. I hope we work toward that though and I hope it benefits the people who will continue to develop the urban core.

Hmmm interesting & sad. I went to the Landing during the game, but was invited to a few Superbowl parties in the burbs. I wanted to see what Jax looked like. The Landing was packed!! Plus it was a good game, not a blow out. I don't think you should be embarrassed, those people are what you call "last minute fans". They didn't do any research on the city, they just came and wandered. Not a good idea when you go to a city you have never been before. I saw plenty of Eagle - Patriot fans having a good time @ the Landing. I'm sure something was happening onthe southbank. I wouldn't blame the city for that. True there are not enough options Downtown, but if you pay all that money to go to a new city, go where everyone else is. Do you adventure searching online before you get there.


Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

[Ocklawaha]

Not only is LA working on a dirt berm stadium (earthquake resistant) but it is only 2 blocks south of a current Metro-Link commuter rail station with a direct Right of Way, into the new Football stadium from the NW. There is also a LRT line planned to go in this direction that may end at the stadium. Add to that the LA equal of our Arlington Expy - Hart Expy - MLK Expy and you have a Stadium that can't miss much.

I do think it's too far EAST to attract the urban core and those from the MONEY in the Belair or Beverly Hills, the beaches or Santa Clarita. But mass transit might be the great equalizer in this. I know before TRANSIT, I would have gone through HELL to stay out of Pomona and that neck of the city. The old Jack Rabbit trail from Long Beach-Disney-Riverside and east is a much nicer area. About the only thing going for the neighborhood is land. Otherwise it will be a cold day in Topanga Canyon when I'd make that drive.

and people from Philly were walking in dumbfounded

Don't worry man, that's why so many are here, people from Philly just do that, then they can't find their ways home! LOL!


OCKLAWAHA

[chipwich]

I think Jacksonville did the best it could with what it had in 2005.

I think we still have at least 10 years to go before we get another Superbowl.  By that time, we should have at least another 2,500 more residents in the core, at least one more signature office tower, 2-4 more limited service hotels and at least 1-2 more full service hotels (adding about 1,500 more rooms downtown) along with a couple of national restuarants and shops downtown.

[Coolyfett]

I think Jacksonville did the best it could with what it had in 2005.

I think we still have at least 10 years to go before we get another Superbowl.  By that time, we should have at least another 2,500 more residents in the core, at least one more signature office tower, 2-4 more limited service hotels and at least 1-2 more full service hotels (adding about 1,500 more rooms downtown) along with a couple of national restuarants and shops downtown.

So 2018?

[soxfan]

New England is working on Gillette City or whatever they're calling it. Kraft has built a small city on the same site as the stadium, complete with hotels, condos, and shopping. There is a Patriot museum as well. Plus it's only 30 min. from Boston. I'm pretty sure they'll get one before we ever see another one...

[tufsu1]

New England is working on Gillette City or whatever they're calling it. Kraft has built a small city on the same site as the stadium, complete with hotels, condos, and shopping. There is a Patriot museum as well. Plus it's only 30 min. from Boston. I'm pretty sure they'll get one before we ever see another one...

wrong...the NFL refuses to host Super Bowls in cold weather cities unless its in a dome...after 9/11, there was talk of having one in NYC or DC...and the NFL pretty much said NO...even the one now planned for NY (really NJ) was a hard fight.

[reednavy]

Nashville and Charlotte will not get it because they have outdoor stadiums. I forgot the exact temp minimum, but if the city has an avg. temp for the time of the Super Bowl below the minimum, they must have a indoor stadium to host. Which is why Dallas and Indianapolis are hosting. Jax has about the lowest minimum temp of any city to host the Super Bowl outside. I can see Jacksonville getting another SB before 2020, only they negative nancies and such at ESPN really bitched about our "Podunk city".

[Ocklawaha]

The positives of being outdoors in the bright shirt sleve sunshine far out weigh any negatives y'all can come up with. Anyone remember or old enough to remember the famous Blizzard Bowl? I watched in disbelief as the Reffs tried to run out and kick the hash marks in the field, the cameras couldn't see most of the game. I'm telling you IF that was the largest market in the world, and they had every perk known to man and football, we would still beat them as we are "SOUTHERN BY THE GRACE OF GOD!"

OCKLAWAHA

[chipwich]

So 2018?

I hope so.  Let's dare to dream and most importantly get the city on the right track towards encouraging a vibrant, organized core that is capable of hosting such an event.  I think we got a lot of sympathy on our first try.  However, in order to get in the rotation, we will have to offer guests a bit more than just great hospitality and effort.  We have to give them a nice and fun place to stay, eat, drink, shop and hang-out.

We can do it!

[urbanlibertarian]

I'm a pretty positive optimistic guy but I'll be SHOCKED if we get another Superbowl in my lifetime.

[JeffreyS]

When the NFL is ready to pressure us make improvements to the stadium again.  I do not say this as a negative.

Can you explain in more detail? Isn't Jacksonville one of the best stadiums in the league? Does Miami & New Orleans make those improvements as well? Just some dumb questions, Im curious how that works. Write back.

I just meant years from now when it is time to improve again the NFL will come to us and use the superbowl as a carrot.  Jacksonville is a wonderful stadium and won't need anything for a long time.

[Ocklawaha]

Quote from: Coolyfett on Yesterday at 02:36:19 PM
Quote from: JeffreyS on Yesterday at 11:20:04 AM
When the NFL is ready to pressure us make improvements to the stadium again.  I do not say this as a negative.


Can you explain in more detail? Isn't Jacksonville one of the best stadiums in the league? Does Miami & New Orleans make those improvements as well? Just some dumb questions, Im curious how that works. Write back.

I just meant years from now when it is time to improve again the NFL will come to us and use the superbowl as a carrot.  Jacksonville is a wonderful stadium and won't need anything for a long time.

It's not just our stadium, it's our location, and our weather that will speak LOUDLY for us. Where else can MICKEY have a Super Bowl? 3 choices and ours is the largest, and perhaps best of the lot. As for improvements, that also doesn't rest with just the stadium. Most any city getting Olympic's, Worlds Fair, Superbowl's, etc... will get MILLIONS from the various federal agencys to boost roadways, transit, police, access all the general city perks. We failed to play that card last time around, hopefully, within 7-8 years, we'll have it in the bag. I HAVE NO DOUBT.

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[Keith-N-Jax]

People will always find something to complain about. To be fair to our city, we did a good job for what we had, but since there was so many negative vibes, and negative sterotypes made well before the big game got here I am not surprised that if the littliest thing went wrong people would complain. The NFL said they were impressed ok well I dont see the game ever comming back here. With a bad economy, very poor leadership, honestly what changes will we see in the city in the future,,IMO not much, I always try to remain optimistict, but the real truth is so many other ciites with teams are so far ahead and increasing the lead while we ponder about how to maintain a pocket park

[jtwestside]

Looking back, we did a really good job as a city with the Super Bowl. Also, I would say that (looking back) we have come a little ways as a city and I'm not trying to use little with tongue in cheek. But we have grown and made improvements.

While I would be hesitant to say that we are ready to host a game right now BUT ... if the port grows as expected and I think it will even in these economic times (imports will turn into exports as the value of the dollar fluctuates and makes manufaturing in the US more viable ... etc) and we have a large Navy contingent ... I think what I trying to say is that we have the ability to 'ride out' some of the economic down turn better than some of the other places who regularly host.