Jacksonville's next Superbowl !!!

[tufsu1]

I honestly think that the NFL needs to get off the indoor craze and expand the SB to more cities that have still relatively ok conditions this time of year. I'd be all for adding Charlotte and Nashville, even if they're both outside venues.

Football is a sport made to be played outdoors. The Univ. of Minnesota opened their new OUTDOOR stadium this past season, and did very well.

Three thoughts:

1. Nashville - did you see how cold the Music City Bowl (Kentucky v. Clemson) looked this year?
2. Minneapolis - Univ. of Minnesota stops playing in November...try and have a game outdoors now
3. Its not about the players, its about the fans that pay $1000 per ticket...they can't be cold or wet

[heights unknown]

I honestly think that the NFL needs to get off the indoor craze and expand the SB to more cities that have still relatively ok conditions this time of year. I'd be all for adding Charlotte and Nashville, even if they're both outside venues.

Football is a sport made to be played outdoors. The Univ. of Minnesota opened their new OUTDOOR stadium this past season, and did very well.

Three thoughts:

1. Nashville - did you see how cold the Music City Bowl (Kentucky v. Clemson) looked this year?
2. Minneapolis - Univ. of Minnesota stops playing in November...try and have a game outdoors now
3. Its not about the players, its about the fans that pay $1000 per ticket...they can't be cold or wet

Good point tufsu1; the fans pay a lot money for those tickets and for them to spend 3 hours or more in sub-freezing or freezing temperatures, or pouring, driving, wind driven rain, is not good for the super bowl in and of itself; fans will not pay to sit in the cold or rain; they'd rather be in Tampa, San Diego, Miami, or an indoor domed facility.

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[JaxNative68]

Sorry NFL, but I'd rather attend an outdoors SB game. Most teams play outside, so IMO, it isn't fair to always want to have it indoors. The onyl reason Dallas and Indianapolis have games, in 2011 and 2012 respectively, is becuase they're indoors only. If it were an outside venue, Indy would be completely out of the mix and Dallas would be marginal.

I honestly think that the NFL needs to get off the indoor craze and expand the SB to more cities that have still relatively ok conditions this time of year. I'd be all for adding Charlotte and Nashville, even if they're both outside venues.

Football is a sport made to be played outdoors. The Univ. of Minnesota opened their new OUTDOOR stadium this past season, and did very well. The direction the NFL has been going over the years, I hope for a lockout in 2011, that'll teach all levels are leson, granted a hard one. It would suck for Indy cause they wouldn't get the SB in 2012 then.

dallas and indy are in, because they just built new stadiums . . . it's a great advertisement for the nfl to press the cities where the they and the team owners are complaining about their stadiums.  It is a build and we will come mentality.  it can definitely put pressure on jax in the future.  maybe all the rumors about Goodell being anti jax are true and he wants to move the team, not weaver.

[Coolyfett]

If you don't meet the minimumn qualifications, you don't bid...period

B S!! I say go for it every year like Phoenix does. There is always 4 Superbowls on line up. 3 right now. I know Jax probably want get the next opening, but I know San Diego, Miami & Tampa Bay are getting that spot. In my opinion that leaves Phoenix, Houston & maybe Atlanta, but Atlanta is talking the same "we cant do it" crap that Jax is doing.

[Coolyfett]

It is high time for a Super Bowl in Lambeau then!!

the media snobs would have a field day!

[simms3]

Atlanta will never host another SB because the last time they did there was a major ice storm.  It was too much of a negative experience.  Jacksonville needs at least another decade.  Coolyfett and Reednavy, I love the optimism, but at this point you guys need to start sounding more realistic.  The state the city is still in right now would be an embarassment even to place a bid.  Goodell and other NFL execs would only laugh at us.

Besides, I think SBs are highly overrated.  There are plenty of other events that bring more people and cost less.  The SB can almost be like a mini Olympics: A huge money loser even after exposure and crowds is taken into effect.  Our city's/taxpayer's money would be much better spent improving downtown and attracting business than lobbying for a SB and rebuilding our stadium.  Once we do the first step, then let's talk.  Also, Jax has a fog/weather problem for Feb.  It can be down right cold!  People do not come to FL to be cold.  Period.

[reednavy]

So, it was in the 50s in Miami at the end of the game, what's your point on the weather? I'm a meteorologist, so you can't tell me that bullcrap about the weather.

Cooly, San Diego will not host another SB unless they can get Qualcomm Stadium up to par, which ain't happening anytime soon.

[mtraininjax]

3. Its not about the players, its about the fans that pay $1000 per ticket...they can't be cold or wet

I paid 500 each for my seats in 2003, I had a great time, even though it was a bit chilly during the game. The day was warm, the bands were fun, it was the best that downtown has looked since I have been here in my 30+years.

A huge money loser even after exposure and crowds is taken into effect.

Simms - I guess we should throw out the Gator Bowl and FL/GA games while we're at it. Forget the fact that they bring an estimated 20-30 million PER game to our local economy. Super Bowl cities have 200-300 million impact, we have had jobs created as a result of the SB played here. I think it was well worth the investment. Downtown has not looked so good since then.

Our stadium, at 15 is looking a bit tired compared to the new Dallas or Indy stadiums. Even Miami is getting thrown under the bus for a 20 year old stadium. The Ga Dome is nothing new either, and the NFL wants the games played in newer stadiums. I don't see the game coming back anytime soon, but never say never.

[ProjectMaximus]

Besides, I think SBs are highly overrated.  There are plenty of other events that bring more people and cost less.  The SB can almost be like a mini Olympics: A huge money loser even after exposure and crowds is taken into effect.  Our city's/taxpayer's money would be much better spent improving downtown and attracting business than lobbying for a SB and rebuilding our stadium. 

I don't think it's anything like the olympics. Beijing and Athens lost money because they spent billions building infrastructure and venues that have gone to waste after the events ended. And the costs with security and ceremony/celebrations is not even comparable to the two-week long Olympics. Of course, the olympics also stand to generate far more exposure and revenue if done "properly," but my main point is that the Super Bowl is definitely a net positive for the city. We aren't talking about building a stadium for the game and then tearing it down afterward. It's already there for use by other tenants and will continue to be, with or without another SB.

And yet, I agree to wait until we are ready before placing another bid. 

[duvaldude08]

I think the two things that would hinder us right now is the transportation issue. Downtown Jacksonville was a mad house clogged with buses and limo's. All we have are city buses and the skyway, which goes nowhere. I feel that if we extended the skyway to the stadium, that would be the best thing we could have ever done. However we all know thats not going to happen. As far as entertainment, the Bay street area is popping and only getting better, and there a new hotels poppin up everyday. I feel once all these things are in line, we will be better positioned to host a event of that size with no problem.

[Coolyfett]

Not anytime soon.  Perhaps after a few years of positive urban, entertainment, hotel and mass transit improvements.  If I had to toss a year out there, it would be somewhere between 2025 and 2030.

Are we ready for another Superbowl yet....Scoreboards seem ready.

[thelakelander]

Nope. It will be a while and it will take more than nice scoreboards and pools.

[Gamblor]

I like this subject, and you had it right here Lake.

Not anytime soon.  Perhaps after a few years of positive urban, entertainment, hotel and mass transit improvements.  If I had to toss a year out there, it would be somewhere between 2025 and 2030.

Lets say everything in Brooklyn continues smoothly, Khan gets the Shipyards to be a successful development on the scale he has discussed, Healthy Town goes great, and the Landing is developed to something on these lines...



The NFL then might start to think about another Jax Super Bowl. The hotel and exhibition space is still a big problem for them, as is the mass transit and there not being an overwhelming number of entertainment options like there is in Miami and New Orleans. Also the NFL liked the idea of Jax having the Super Bowl before it started to really be a "big league" city. Part of the appeal of this, is so that when the Super Bowl comes back, the growth the NFL believes they help to spur would be evident, thus the need to fix some of the holes.

[thelakelander]

I wouldn't even waste my time considering a super bowl without a major expansion of hotel rooms and actually doing something to really enhance mass transit connectivity.  I'm not sure JTA's BRT-lite proposal would be considered an enhancement for this demographic, so it would have to be something that really attracts choice riders.

[Gamblor]

I wouldn't even waste my time considering a super bowl without a major expansion of hotel rooms and actually doing something to really enhance mass transit connectivity.  I'm not sure JTA's BRT-lite proposal would be considered an enhancement for this demographic, so it would have to be something that really attracts choice riders.

Yah I think after their last experience here, just fixing the hotel problem wont be enough. The NFL knows the area is spread out, and I think they'd like something like a nice, comfortable, well designed LRT system. The BRT-lite would be laughed out by the owners who live in cities like Denver, San Francisco, NYC, Chicago, Minneapolis....