Are the Pierson twins responsible for the Jaguars poor performance this season?

[David]

I'm with you, man.  The tickets do come at a dear price, but I figured that this was the year to put my money where my mouth is.  Incidentally, this was the first year I could swing it financially as well.

I don't think that the remarks about people not buying tickets have ever been directed at those who don't have the means.  There are plenty of people who can afford it who choose not to support the team that way.  I don't know why.  I still consider them fans, but it grates on me to hear some of my friends, who do have the means, complain about blackouts and LA rumors, yet they do not consider buying more than occasional single-game tickets.  'It's too hot; I like to watch the late games and can't if I go; It takes too long to get down there and get home; etc, etc."  Those are the lame excuses, IMO.  A buddy said, "I almost got the Teal (half-season) pack this year.  Almost? Dude. Weak.

I had no excuses before, I just had this chip on my shoulder about the lack of heart in pro sports and how it seemed to ONLY focus on profit. I mean you've seen Basketball right? Here's the dialogue from the opening scene:

"Soon it was commonplace for entire teams to change cities in search of greater profits: New York to Oklahoma, Oregon to San Diego to Florida he Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles, where there are no lakes. The Oilers moved to Tennessee, where there is no oil. The Jazz moved to Salt Lake City, where they don't allow music. The Oakland Raiders moved to L.A. and then back to Oakland. No one in Los Angeles seemed to notice.""

The constant threat to leave because your city is not spending enough money had turned me off in the past but hey...it is a business and NOT college football. I figured I’d try and do my part since it's no longer breaking the bank.

I'm glad there was some compromise on the stadium capacity. Back when it was around 76,000 that required an insane percentage of the population to attend. With only 1.3 million within the metro area, that's a sizable chunk of our population and it's not like we have other markets to draw from like Green Bay and Buffalo does. We've got the Atlantic to our East & South Ga to our north the sparsely populated panhandle to the west and Orlando to our south that tends to favor the Bucks. Nor do we have the long standing history either that sells out other small market teams like Green Bay, that history's  being made right now.

It really is all up to us in the immediate area. I just hope when Wayne Weaver's gone, the Jags will still stay!

[Keith-N-Jax]

No matter how banged up the Colts are, Manning is still on the field and if the defense cant put him on the ground they will win. It will come to Imo who can score the most points,, I hope we can do it. If 0-3 I will have to get my prescription refilled again

[ac]

I had no excuses before, I just had this chip on my shoulder about the lack of heart in pro sports and how it seemed to ONLY focus on profit. I mean you've seen Basketball right? Here's the dialogue from the opening scene:

"Soon it was commonplace for entire teams to change cities in search of greater profits: New York to Oklahoma, Oregon to San Diego to Florida he Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles, where there are no lakes. The Oilers moved to Tennessee, where there is no oil. The Jazz moved to Salt Lake City, where they don't allow music. The Oakland Raiders moved to L.A. and then back to Oakland. No one in Los Angeles seemed to notice.""

The constant threat to leave because your city is not spending enough money had turned me off in the past but hey...it is a business and NOT college football. I figured I’d try and do my part since it's no longer breaking the bank.

I'm glad there was some compromise on the stadium capacity. Back when it was around 76,000 that required an insane percentage of the population to attend. With only 1.3 million within the metro area, that's a sizable chunk of our population and it's not like we have other markets to draw from like Green Bay and Buffalo does. We've got the Atlantic to our East & South Ga to our north the sparsely populated panhandle to the west and Orlando to our south that tends to favor the Bucks. Nor do we have the long standing history either that sells out other small market teams like Green Bay, that history's  being made right now.

It really is all up to us in the immediate area. I just hope when Wayne Weaver's gone, the Jags will still stay!

In the modern age of the NFL, every time a team has moved, the issue has been the quality of the facilities, not fan support or lack thereof.  There's always a first time for that to happen, but the stadium is state of the art as of 2004, when upgrades were made to it in advance of the Super Bowl.

I would get more worried when the Jags start voicing dissatisfaction with JMS and saying a new stadium is needed, or if the talks with the City to renew their lease next time around turn contentious.

That said, attendance issues don't make us look good, and selling out definitely sends a message.  Covering seats was a compromise, and the intent was to raise the value of having tickets by limiting supply.  Jacksonville has the density to fill the entire stadium; it was full and rocking for years.  The Jaguars are literally the only game in town.  But that debate is settled due to the covers.  I believe that for some reason, a lot of people have soured on them, and I don't know why.

[ProjectMaximus]

It will come to Imo who can score the most points

I agree with your opinion. 

[ProjectMaximus]

I would get more worried when the Jags start voicing dissatisfaction with JMS and saying a new stadium is needed, or if the talks with the City to renew their lease next time around turn contentious.

Yes, this could be a problem some day. But not until the ticket sales issue is fixed. The idea of building new and improved stadiums is to maximize profits, and there wouldn't be any point if the current stadium wasn't getting filled.

[David]

I just had to share after reading about this in the folio:

Pre-Game Coin Toss Makes Jacksonville Jaguars Realize Randomness Of Life

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/pre_game_coin_toss_makes

http://www.youtube.com/v/y1feEqgRZQI

Gotta love the onion

[BridgeTroll]

   Hilarious! 

[copperfiend]

I'm waiting for somebody to blame Leftwich.

[Jason]

I've never seen these guys before.  I'll have to check out the site. 

I like the sports update at the bottom of the screen:  "QB David Garrard stripped naked, told witnesses he was 'going east', to toil."

[Coolyfett]

lol

[Coolyfett]

What happened to the original topic? I was still reading it? No more freedom of speech?