Sandbags stir charges of special treatment

[BridgeTroll]

It seems to me that a perfectly acceptable solution and compromise would be loading 10 or so dump trucks with sand and a pallet of empty bags and strategically station them around the city focusing on flood prone areas...San Marco, Riverside, Downtown, Springfield, etc. and let people take what they need.  How much could this cost??  A couple gallons of fuel for the truck...$40,  load of sand...$400, pallet of bags... $600.  These are just guesstimates but at $1000 per truck and 10 trucks this is only $10,000 per storm.  I would welcome more accurate costs and maybe my numbers are way off but this should be pretty easy to do...

[Lunican]

http://www.youtube.com/v/IMpw2ig9uUQ

[Driven1]

lol - i wanna bill and i wanna pay for it. 

i had to call and call and call ... [finally i called my boy Adam Hollingsworth]

she was just pushing the reporter around and talking over her.  ignoring her questions.

HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF ABUSING MY POWER!!!

lol, Hollingsworth - "she was a single woman, i wanted to help her".

[uptowngirl]

I think she should have gotten a hazmat crew out there, after all she had a biological spill on her back, maybe a trip to Shands would of done more good...

[BridgeTroll]

It seems to me that a perfectly acceptable solution and compromise would be loading 10 or so dump trucks with sand and a pallet of empty bags and strategically station them around the city focusing on flood prone areas...San Marco, Riverside, Downtown, Springfield, etc. and let people take what they need.  How much could this cost??  A couple gallons of fuel for the truck...$40,  load of sand...$400, pallet of bags... $600.  These are just guesstimates but at $1000 per truck and 10 trucks this is only $10,000 per storm.  I would welcome more accurate costs and maybe my numbers are way off but this should be pretty easy to do...

I am sure the city can get em cheaper but   $400 for 1000 bags...
http://www.unitedbags.com/c-6-sandbags.aspx

Not sure how much a standard city dumptruck holds but 2 cubic yards of sand go for around $150... probably cheaper for the city.  Looks to me like the city could provide this service for less than $1000 per site, per storm.

[Driven1]

Is it because Corrine is black?  Would anyone have had a problem if it was a 60 year old white woman in San Marco instead? ....

lol.  thanks for the words cooly, but i swear, this section starts JUMPING the minute any black politician gets 2 dollars of a perceived advantage.

there goes the whole "racism" theory...from today's T-U (Mark Woods' column where he writes about the furor that followed Fitzgerald's - who is white - ignorant move in 2004)...

You may recall that four years ago, with Hurricane Jeanne bearing down, Clay County Commissioner Christy Fitzgerald used county assets to shore up her Fleming Island home for the storm.

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/082608/woo_322802768.shtml

[RiversideGator]

Then I expect, River, that if your house should catch afire, that you and friends will put out the fire without any help from our fire department, right?

We live in a flood prone area of a state famous for its storms, hurricanes and tropical.

Stop being disingenuous.

That is apples and oranges, so it is you who are being disingenuous.  BTW, still waiting for proof that the City of Jax provided flood defense services in the 1950s.  Your nonresponse indicates to me that no such proof is forthcoming. 

[RiversideGator]

BTW Stephen, why should the City provide flooding for people who live along our rivers given that they are usually richer than the average citizen?  I would think that this would offend your inner class warrior.   

[apvbguy]

River.

dude where is this bizarre anti civil defense attitude coming from?

This is citizenship and public safety.

Please get off that shaggy, ugly mutant high horse you are riding on.

The whole state is subject to these floods and storms.

Its part of life here.

So is  behaving like a community once in a while.

Don't any of the American Virtues appeal to you anymore?

claiming the preferential treatment for political cronies was civil defense is a ludicrous nonsequitur, give it a rest already!
what was done was wrong and what is even worse is that it is going unpunished

[apvbguy]

hey ponte vedra guy.

you should demand all of the taxes you pay in duval county right back!

I certainly would if I were you.

you sure are full of these non sequiturs, regardless of were my taxes are paid what was done was wrong and only true sycophants will attempt to defend the misuse of city resources to bail out a political cronies

[BridgeTroll]

hey ponte vedra guy.

you should demand all of the taxes you pay in duval county right back!

I certainly would if I were you.

you sure are full of these non sequiturs, regardless of were my taxes are paid what was done was wrong and only true sycophants will attempt to defend the misuse of city resources to bail out a political cronies

How about suggesting a solution... most here agree that it was a breach of official policy to deliver the bags.  Most also have no problem with people voicing complaints about abuse or waste.  Many DO however object to ranting while not participating in a solution.  How about some constructive criticism rather than destructive...

[apvbguy]

hey ponte vedra guy.

you should demand all of the taxes you pay in duval county right back!

I certainly would if I were you.

you sure are full of these non sequiturs, regardless of were my taxes are paid what was done was wrong and only true sycophants will attempt to defend the misuse of city resources to bail out a political cronies

How about suggesting a solution... most here agree that it was a breach of official policy to deliver the bags.  Most also have no problem with people voicing complaints about abuse or waste.  Many DO however object to ranting while not participating in a solution.  How about some constructive criticism rather than destructive...

way back in the beginning of this thread I suggested that Hollingsworth should be canned, if that is too harsh an unpaid suspension of a week or 2.  to let this go unpunished just validates the corrupt business as usual approach.

[apvbguy]

hmm.   you sound like a name calling hack.

et tu

[uptowngirl]

hey ponte vedra guy.

you should demand all of the taxes you pay in duval county right back!

I certainly would if I were you.

you sure are full of these non sequiturs, regardless of were my taxes are paid what was done was wrong and only true sycophants will attempt to defend the misuse of city resources to bail out a political cronies

How about suggesting a solution... most here agree that it was a breach of official policy to deliver the bags.  Most also have no problem with people voicing complaints about abuse or waste.  Many DO however object to ranting while not participating in a solution.  How about some constructive criticism rather than destructive...

way back in the beginning of this thread I suggested that Hollingsworth should be canned, if that is too harsh an unpaid suspension of a week or 2.  to let this go unpunished just validates the corrupt business as usual approach.

Make Her pay for the bags and service (workers) at a market rate (not the prisoner rate as no one else had access to prisoners!), and fine Hollingsworth, it should be a significant fine. I think schools have proven suspension does not work, and besides he would still get paid, so why reward him with a paid vacation! Hit these people in the pocket book, after all it was the tax payers money they wasted...

[apvbguy]

Make Her pay for the bags and service (workers) at a market rate (not the prisoner rate as no one else had access to prisoners!), and fine Hollingsworth, it should be a significant fine. I think schools have proven suspension does not work, and besides he would still get paid, so why reward him with a paid vacation! Hit these people in the pocket book, after all it was the tax payers money they wasted...

why would his suspension be a paid one?