Mayport project has 5-story garage

[Ocklawaha]

Norfolk? Mayport?

Mayport? Norfolk?

Norfolk Maritime Museum? Mayport ? ? ?

Mayport ? ? ?  Tampa Aquarium?

Aquarium? Museum? Retail?

Mayport? Partking garage?

Parking Garage -vs- Museum? Retail? Aquarium?

Norfolk LIGHT RAIL

Tampa STREETCAR

Mayport? Hello? Mayport? Come in Mayport? Hello?

OCKLAWAHA

[thelakelander]

Mayport? Hello? Mayport? Come in Mayport? Hello? [/color] [/b]

OCKLAWAHA

We need to learn how to think outside of the box.  It seems that Jacksonvillians have gotten used to drawing lines in the sand and throwing the baby out with the bath water.  Whatever happened to working together to solve problems.  The port needs a cruise terminal and Mayport is a shell of its former self.  Why can't we have a port terminal incorporated with a riverfront park, a few retail shops and waterfront restaurants, along with some sort of cultural attraction (all integrated with a parking garage)?  Heck, if everyone is willing to sit together, a working water front along with a new terminal is highly possible.

[Gatorziggy]

One thing you should remember is that with a cruise terminal you will have home land security which will require a security zone with no boats or ships around. So no boats or shrimp boats will be allowed from the Coast Guard docks to the Ferry.

[thelakelander]

I would assume the same would have to exist for cities like Tampa.  However in Tampa's case, there's a large marina, waterfront condos and working port terminals nearby.  How large is the security zone?

So no boats or shrimp boats will be allowed from the Coast Guard docks to the Ferry.

Nevermind, I wonder why they are allowed in Tampa and not in Mayport?

[thelakelander]

Waterways Commission approves Mayport land use change



It wasn’t unanimous, but the Jacksonville Port Authority is one step closer to bringing a cruise ship terminal to Mayport Village. By a 6-3 vote, the Jacksonville Waterways Commission approved Thursday a land use change for 7.04 acres in the historic shrimping village, paving the way for the Port Authority to move its cruise ship terminal from the current Dames Point location to an area much closer to the Atlantic Ocean.

David Kaufman, senior director of planning and properties for the Port Authority, pitched the project to the Commission. The legislation would change the land use designation from community/general commercial to water dependent-water related. According to Kaufman, there are several more hurdles to clear before the Port Authority can break ground on the controversial project.

“We have to go in front of the Planning Commission this afternoon and two City Council committees â€" LUZ (Land Use and Zoning) and TEU (Transportation Energy & Utilities). Then, the full Council,” said Kaufman, adding approvals are also needed from the State Department of Community Affairs and the Department of Environmental Protection.

Waterways Commission Chair and Council member Bill Bishop led the opposition.

“I have serious problems with this property. I don’t think Mayport is the right place. I think it’s too small,” said Bishop. “It will literally obliterate the area.”

full article: http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=51233

[GatorShane]

Although I an excited about this project and think it will do wonders for our toursm base I can empathize with the current residents.  Not to offend anyone, but to say that Mayport will lose its charm if the cruise ship terminal is built is strange. Since when do abandoned, rat infested buildings, broken down docks and weed and trash littered lots  constitute charm? Hopefully the city and the port will do everything in their power to make sure that the residents reap benefits from this transition.

[Bewler]

I kind of like the broken down docks and what not. I think it gives Mayport a sense of charismatic antiquity, but then I don't live there so I'm not the one who has to see it all the time.

Is it not sustainable for these two things to coexist? Maybe they could build the garage on the water and design it to look like docked ship or a fort or something?

[JeffreyS]

If the Mayport residents do not want this I support them. I do not think however there is anything quaint about Mayport it is just ugly and trashy and they should embrace any change in fact demand lots of upgrades with the cruise ships. I know others do not feel this way but they probably would with one drive around.

[MattnJax]

I like the idea of the cruise terminal in Mayport only because it seems to be the best place for it in all of Jax. To get the largest and best cruise ships we have to have a terminal east of the Dames Point Bridge. I think that it well be a boom for Mayport. I'm sure the area business needs it what with the Kennedy living town a few years ago and no replacement so far (but maybe down the road). It's all in the name of progress and job/tourist growth for our city. I say bring it on, and yes I'd say the same thing if I lived out there.